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So what is the solution? Let emergency services have a remote control STOP button? But it would have many implications for passengers too
Less anybody think "this is no big deal", let me assure you as a former firefighter, cars driving over fire hoses is a MAJOR deal. Whether the car is driven by a human or AI. And sadly, humans do this all too often anyway. FWIW, the reason(s) this is bad - if not obvious - include: - The hose can (and does) get snagged on the car's under-carriage, which can rip it away from a hydrant, or engine, or yank an attack lin…
So what is the solution? Let emergency services have a remote control STOP button? But it would have many implications for passengers too
Maybe emergency services should have the ability to block autonomous vehicles from particular areas in real time. Certainly the companies should collaborate with them to produce a lot more training data for this kind of scenario.
So what is the solution? Let emergency services have a remote control STOP button? But it would have many implications for passengers too
So what is the solution? Let emergency services have a remote control STOP button? But it would have many implications for passengers too
With driverless self-driving vehicles, you have no such comfort. Even if your software correctly handles 99.9% of the use cases, the remaining .1% will get someone injured or killed, and people climbing into taxis cannot self-select whether their route will pass by a fire, in which case "take a cab with a human driver."
Driverless cars have a huge moral hazard here. Their incentives are all around serving their passengers, but the downsides are offloaded onto pedestrians, cyclists, other automobile users, and now firefighters and the citizens they are protecting.
No "solution" should "beg the question" by taking it as axiomatic that driverless cars at the current level of capability are necessary. They are not.
We are not curing cancer or feeding the world here, we are trying to make people get rich by eliminating the cost of labour for a human driver. No way this calculus should prioritize investors over human lives in any sane society.
So what is the solution? Let emergency services have a remote control STOP button? But it would have many implications for passengers too
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Escalators have big red “Emergency Stop” buttons anyone can press when things go wrong. Why not one for autonomous vehicles, too?
Carjackings and other crimes where people could press the button in a bad part of town and pull the riders out.
Aren't they supposed to respond to gestures? What do they do if someone is directing traffic? And I guess the question if they do respond to traffic directing gestures: how do they avoid obvious pranks from drunk people?
Since there's no way to take control of these vehicles, I imagine they fall back to a service center with remote drivers when they come across the unexpected. Anything involving flashy lights should fall into this category.
Less anybody think "this is no big deal", let me assure you as a former firefighter, cars driving over fire hoses is a MAJOR deal. Whether the car is driven by a human or AI. And sadly, humans do this all too often anyway. FWIW, the reason(s) this is bad - if not obvious - include: - The hose can (and does) get snagged on the car's under-carriage, which can rip it away from a hydrant, or engine, or yank an attack lin…
I'm slightly alarmed by the general scenario of a driverless vehicle approaching an emergency situation. A human-driven vehicle will respond to gestures from firefighters to go around, etc. And even most dull humans will have more situational awareness and flexibility than an AI is likely to, particularly as these sorts of scenarios are edge cases by definition. E.g. depending on your jurisdiction and the situation,…
Such kinds of problems will only scale up as we apply L5 cars take on more public roads, but I wonder how long or what changes will have to be done in current road signs, critical city infra to support them.