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Ask HN: Disabled and out of work for years, but need some side income

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Re: Ask HN: Disabled and out of work for years, but need some side income

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$1200/m as a decent software engineer should be really doable, whether writing software directly or not. It just might take some work to get creative and figure out where the right niches are. I think you really want to explore more non-traditional routes, since $1200 is not much for a full time job, and probably too low end for traditional consulting as well. For instance: * I would get on all the expert networks (G…

Little typo in your first bullet: should be reddit.com/r/expertnetworks/

Re: Ask HN: Disabled and out of work for years, but need some side income

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> I've been disabled since 2018, and my skills in software as such have largely become outdated. I always find this such a weird claim. Sure, lots has happened in the past 5 years, but there's still tons of software out there that's older than 5 years, most major programming languages are decades old, and anything new can be learned. If you want to be able to make money quickly, it's far more interesting to look at w…

> I always find this such a weird claim. Sure, lots has happened in the past 5 years, but there's still tons

It depends a lot on what you are working on.

If you work on a big legacy system, you can probably walk in after 5 years and pick it up. Same C on an established embedded platform. And certainly, Cobol on a mainframe. Perl you are good as well

It seems like if you writing front - end code shit is changing on a monthly basis , framework come, disappear, new hotness, cargo culting. Or at least I think that is what a lot of the cursing I have heard from people who do it.

Myself i have never down that road but it seems chaotic.

I have worked a lot with C#. It has changed so much over 5 or 7 years that if you are all up on the latest changes you can write code that is not easy to read for someone a while back. (Here I am talking language changes) Of course the .Net framework has changed a lot, .core now it.

You can pick it up but it would take work.

Really it depends on what, where and how.

Re: Ask HN: Disabled and out of work for years, but need some side income

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Means testing?

Means testing is when the government uses your income to determine eligibility for a benefit. It's why you have to worry about making "too much" money to continue qualifying for disability assistance.

Oh okay I see yeah

Re: Ask HN: Disabled and out of work for years, but need some side income

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> I've been disabled since 2018, and my skills in software as such have largely become outdated. I always find this such a weird claim. Sure, lots has happened in the past 5 years, but there's still tons of software out there that's older than 5 years, most major programming languages are decades old, and anything new can be learned. If you want to be able to make money quickly, it's far more interesting to look at w…

> I always find this such a weird claim. Sure, lots has happened in the past 5 years, but there's still tons It depends a lot on what you are working on. If you work on a big legacy system, you can probably walk in after 5 years and pick it up. Same C on an established embedded platform. And certainly, Cobol on a mainframe. Perl you are good as well It seems like if you writing front - end code shit is changing on a…

> It seems like if you writing front - end code shit is changing on a monthly basis , framework come, disappear, new hotness, cargo culting.

We're taking about from 2018 until now. React was already 5 years old back then. If one was a productive frontend dev in any of the popular stacks of 2018, what exactly do you think they would be missing in order to be productive today?

Re: Ask HN: Disabled and out of work for years, but need some side income

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I once knew a guy who was severely spastic, bound to a motorised wheelchair, could barely move or talk, but inside his head he was really smart and good with computers. Despite his complete disability, he was able to land a programming job with a company willing to accommodate for his disability, and he did very good work there. Then the department where he worked was disbanded and everybody was laid off. All his cow…

I'm not sure if you or your friend are in the US. Here we have SSI (for people so disabled they were never able to work) and SSDI for people who could work and became disabled. I have cerebral palsy and I used to be on SSI. I managed to get a CS degree and get off disability, but in doing so I 'crossed the rubicon' and 'burned the ships' so to speak, on ever going back on disability. It was scary for sure, but it ult…

> I'm not sure if you or your friend are in the US.

We're not. We're in Netherland, but it sounds like the US system is not all that dissimilar from the Dutch one.

Personally I don't think there should be a Rubicon; if you're severely disabled and you still manage to work, I'd like to see that rewarded rather than punished. Keep the disability pay and have something extra. The fact that you then contribute to the tax base is enough for me. There's no need to create extra pitfalls for disabled people.

Re: Ask HN: Disabled and out of work for years, but need some side income

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post #195

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I'm not sure if you or your friend are in the US. Here we have SSI (for people so disabled they were never able to work) and SSDI for people who could work and became disabled. I have cerebral palsy and I used to be on SSI. I managed to get a CS degree and get off disability, but in doing so I 'crossed the rubicon' and 'burned the ships' so to speak, on ever going back on disability. It was scary for sure, but it ult…

> I'm not sure if you or your friend are in the US. We're not. We're in Netherland, but it sounds like the US system is not all that dissimilar from the Dutch one. Personally I don't think there should be a Rubicon; if you're severely disabled and you still manage to work, I'd like to see that rewarded rather than punished. Keep the disability pay and have something extra. The fact that you then contribute to the tax…

Yeah, losing disability was scary. When my friends were unemployed in '08, they could turn to trades and other physical work. I didn't have that option. If I failed, I was homeless.

That was pretty much the reason why I kept living like a poor grad student for the next decade until I didn't need to work to survive.

Re: Ask HN: Disabled and out of work for years, but need some side income

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Starving the poor to prevent feeding the rich seems like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

On the one hand yes. But letting your system be abused by those that have no need for it is never a good use of funds.

>But letting your system be abused by those that have no need for it is never a good use of funds.

And yet, we have rich people using fraud to get government funds that they have absolutely no need for while the poor get exploited and starve.

The abuse is going on A N Y W A Y; it's just that people get more indignant when one of the "poors" occasionally get that extra soda out of the machine.

Re: Ask HN: Disabled and out of work for years, but need some side income

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There are a lot of aid groups that advise on this stuff. In fact I’d never heard of special needs trust and kagi’ed for it and a lot of the results were aid groups offering help in setting them up and understanding them. It doesn’t require you to lawyer up. But it requires you to seek help. A problem with mental illness is you often are unable to seek help on your own, and if your support network is ignorant of the f…

Benefits shouldn't have this cliff where you lose them if you start doing too well. It's an poverty/low income trap. If you're on disability/welfare you should still be incentived and rewarded for making money outside of your government payment. It could be a constant thing like UBI or a gradual reduction like income tax brackets where more money earned is always more money in your pocket.

Negative income tax is the term for what I believe you're referring to.

Re: Ask HN: Disabled and out of work for years, but need some side income

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> Run all plans through lawyer I don't think you appreciate how tight the budget of a disabled person on SSI is.

They'll require help (Friends/family/someone). However I'm MUCH more worried about them losing SSI because "someone on the internet said this was OK". Granted I have no idea how much a lawyer costs (and last time I used one it came in <$300).

I would be too, and going forward without legal advice is really fool-hardy. The trick imo would be finding an affordable lawyer who is also familiar with disability law.

Re: Ask HN: Disabled and out of work for years, but need some side income

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It's hard to take Fiver seriously. For example a quick search for 'Ruby Rails' and one of the top service providers lists a premium service of 'full stack development app' delivered in 3 days, and including a 15 minute consultation, a project plan, and audit, for ... $20.

The $20 quote is ofc absurd, but Fiverr can never work for professionals in rich countries.
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