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And this is a step to correct that. Search is hard, and its getting harder. SEO is ruining search, real human crowdsourced referrals offload the parts where algorithms cannot perform.
Algorithms are also written by real humans.
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Yes! Leave it to Google to screw up privacy, I don't use G+ much but this right here has left a bitter taste in my mouth. I would say it's intentionally convoluted to get people to have poorly set settings (more "sharing"), but let's face it, Google's hilarious UI's come from their aversion to design (they're engineers!). Anyway, I spent 20 minutes frantically trying to figure out how to handle gChat privacy settings…
>DO THIS BEFORE YOU JOIN! From my experience, you can do this even after you join.
I said do it before you join to save people in a similar situation.
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I guess the problem is that you added a bunch of strangers to Google+. That's not what Google+ is for. I've kept my Google+ account limited to just friends and family, and I've found it amazingly helpful for them to be added to chat. I used to use irssi+bitlbee, but now I find it easier to just open Google+ and find people to talk to. Ultimately, I think your Google+ experience is going to be a product of your expect…
I guess the problem is that you added a bunch of strangers to Google+. That's not what Google+ is for. Um... Isn't that the reason "circles" in Google+ exist? To draw lines? It's why we read HN instead of Reddit or Slashdot: mostly to be different. I don't think anyone only "reads" one community. According to interest, one participates in many? Personally, I found all this quite confusing (and just when I figured how…
If this is supposed to be a social network, why are these limitations in place?
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#114Information overload in a language I don't even understand!
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Yes! Leave it to Google to screw up privacy, I don't use G+ much but this right here has left a bitter taste in my mouth. I would say it's intentionally convoluted to get people to have poorly set settings (more "sharing"), but let's face it, Google's hilarious UI's come from their aversion to design (they're engineers!). Anyway, I spent 20 minutes frantically trying to figure out how to handle gChat privacy settings…
Google's hilarious UI's come from their aversion to design This is false. Google has many staff UI designers and does tons of internal testing and UI research. (We have rooms with one-way mirrors all over the place, just for UI research.) It's likely that you find the privacy settings difficult because Google+ does a lot, and privacy settings are, in fact, difficult. Very scary. What else are they going to "integrate…
As for the chat/mail integration, I didn't like it either. It filled my gchat with hundreds of useless contacts from gmail.
That's another great point: Did they not even test these features, not even once? The gmail/chat integration sucked, and it filled my gchat buddy list of a number of users I'd emailed -once- in my life without ever asking me if I wanted to suddenly be chat-buddies with them, sharing my away/idle/etc information, etc.
I'm sorry but Google has always sucked at privacy and I find it funny that you use something as poor as the chat/mail integration as an example.
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The setting is unfortunately hidden. You need to click on the little arrow that's next to the chat login next to stream to find it. If you're not signed into chat first do so then click the little arrow again. From there you can add and remove circles from your chat.
Thank you for finding that! If you go to the chat settings on the Gmail page (where I usually use chat), this option doesn't exist.
Edit: I spoke to soon. This controls who appears in the Chat inside Plus, but the chat inside GMail still shows everybody!
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Doh. And now I have a whole bunch of people showing up in my chat client. Is there a way to disable that? I see the options for 'Who can start a Messenger conversation with you?' but they are somewhat limited and that's not the option I'm quite looking for.
Yes! Leave it to Google to screw up privacy, I don't use G+ much but this right here has left a bitter taste in my mouth. I would say it's intentionally convoluted to get people to have poorly set settings (more "sharing"), but let's face it, Google's hilarious UI's come from their aversion to design (they're engineers!). Anyway, I spent 20 minutes frantically trying to figure out how to handle gChat privacy settings…