Don't want to be too critical of (I assume) the students' efforts, but in my opinion the message behind the project is a bit too explicitly translated into the products. It could use a bit more creativity in how they're trying to convey the message translated into everyday (distopian) future life. For instance compare it to the works at https://www.nearfuturelaboratory.com/ like their IKEA catalog of the future. It works better in my opinion to generate discussion rather than having the distopian part expressed so explicitly.
Aicracy – Governed by Algorithms
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#72The next stage is getting rid of the weakest link, the unstable biological elements.
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#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
Western cultures, as originating from the Greeks, prioritise the individual in society and usually attempt to improve through the conflict and collaboration of such individuals. Eastern cultures, as originating from Confucianism, prioritise the group and attempt to improve through harmony of social structure and contribution to the greater good. I wouldn't say one is better than the other, but they're very alien in c…
The individualized approach is more congruent with reality, as people experience the world as individuals. Collectivism is based on a conceptual error, in personifying society, instead of recognizing it as an abstract notion. The advancement of human civilization was driven by the recognition of individual rights and the emphasis on the individual. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/07/the-pol...
I would say it's more congruent with evolution, which is to say it aligns with the idea that mutations or other advantages can put an organism far ahead of its competitors and improves the species through genetic preservation (or historical preservation, in the case of societies).
I don't buy that it's out-and-out better than a collectivist system at a society level (even though I consider myself very much an individualist). As usual with these sorts of polarising perspectives, the ideal is probably somewhere in the middle and a purely individualist society will never be able to persist long term.
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#76Don't want to be too critical of (I assume) the students' efforts, but in my opinion the message behind the project is a bit too explicitly translated into the products. It could use a bit more creativity in how they're trying to convey the message translated into everyday (distopian) future life. For instance compare it to the works at https://www.nearfuturelaboratory.com/ like their IKEA catalog of the future. It w…
That catalog is indeed a great one!
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#77The happiness patch sounds like it would undermine everything else. If you want people to be able to make the best of themselves, you need strong people, not weak ones with zero resilience.
When we filmed the movie, we mixed coke with water and pumped it through the happiness patch's hose: today's readily available boost of dopamine (sugar and caffeine) is also the future's. ;)
Wait, there's a movie? I didn't see that. What's its name?
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#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
You know you can disagree with a conclusion, right?
Neutrality is a prerequisite for discussions. This project is not a discussion.
The project itself is not a discussion, but responses and reactions to it form a discussion.
As to neutrality being a prerequisite, are you trying to separate the idea of discussion from debate? I feel you may either have different basic definitional ideas than the people you are arguing with.
On this project specifically, and the notion of AI in government in general, and am reminded of a quote about late nineteenth and early twentieth century utopian fiction, “The authors expend all their effort describing the method of distributing resources without expanding on what the fair distribution is.”
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
When we filmed the movie, we mixed coke with water and pumped it through the happiness patch's hose: today's readily available boost of dopamine (sugar and caffeine) is also the future's. ;)
Wait, there's a movie? I didn't see that. What's its name?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fnsW5MBfDg
It's embedded at the bottom of the page ;-)
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#80(One commentor pointed out that they weren't aware that this is a movie project - the film's embedded at the bottom of the page, but here it is as a YouTube link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fnsW5MBfDg
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