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Re: Ask HN: What's your approach to raising kids?

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Agreeing with all that you say, except the claim that preventing technology is BS. If a tablet or smartphone is available it is almost always what kids will choose, if you don't make it available, they can do and learn better things. Sure, you cannot prevent it forever, but that's not the goal, just to postpone it until they are well-equipped to handle it. The same really with alcohol or smoking. You cannot prevent y…

Is that so? So a kid will always prefer to use a tablet than visit their fun friends or do something exciting? They likely use it because they are bored, just like adults are. We're all humans in the end. Just let them use it, but if they use too much, you need to give a good example of what would be an alternative, also what are their responsibilities. If they are getting good grades and keep their room organized, w…

> So a kid will always prefer to use a tablet than visit their fun friends or do something exciting?

Pretty much. Modern tablets and apps are hopelessly strong eyeball magnets for kids. You have to pry them away, sometimes physically, and everything else will seem boring in comparison.

Re: Ask HN: What's your approach to raising kids?

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Be there for your kids. We made career choices that prioritized our time with our children so we could be present, to the point that one major publishing firm knew I would be cooking dinner if they called me after 430pm.

Be fully present when you play with them. Really PLAY with them. Kids know when you are not paying attention.

Set firm boundaries. I once read that everything is new and novel for a child, so having firm routines and boundaries are comforting because they have a place that is safe and unchanging. You are not their friend, you are their parent. You might notice that people who try to be friends with their kids tend to spend little time with them...

Be a good and non-judgmental listener when they get older. They need you more at 14 than they do when they're 3, and the stakes are much higher.

Finally, be the person you want them to be. When my son was younger, I was obese, drinking, out of shape, whiney, unkempt and emotionally unstable. One day I realized that it didn't matter what I said, he watched who I was, and my words and actions didn't match up. I quit drinking, started weightlifting, went to a therapist. Funnily enough, these changes launched me out of a rut and into a much more fulfilling career. My son did model me, and now, when he struggles, I can talk to him about overcoming my challenges and it relates.

The most important thing to realize is your time with them is finite and you need to fiercely protect yourself against demands that take you away from giving them your full attention. You cannot comprehend how quickly your time with them at home goes by. You cannot reverse time. Your time is the only gift you have to give to your children.

Re: Ask HN: What's your approach to raising kids?

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I'm the father of a newborn. I'm very hesitant about programs that require a child be enrolled in them until college or the entire project falls apart, leaving the child adrift in turbulent waters without a paddle. I'm not thinking about good or bad kid but resilient kid capable of adapting to change and thriving. Montessori seems to produce more fish out of water than air-sea amphibians who can thrive in both.

Re: Ask HN: What's your approach to raising kids?

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I would say do not lose sight of the big picture. The topmost responsibility of parents is: To prepare them for adult-hood. The following cross-cuts anything the child decides to do in future: 1. Being mentally tough * Dealing with success & failures * Dealing with conflicts 2. Money * Importance of money & saving * Importance of investing 3. Communication skills * Focus on effectiveness of communication * Importance…

I strongly agree with the last points. My daughter is a very pretty and stylish engineer that has built a firm financial foundation and has no debts. Because of this, she is free to take risks that others can only dream of.

Re: Ask HN: What's your approach to raising kids?

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I’m a big fan of Positive Parenting as taught by the YouTube channel Live On Purpose TV. They seem to be Mormon but they never actually admit it. It’s just great stuff, practical advice. It strikes my partner and I as common sense which is a good sign I think. Find a school of thought that fits and then tune in for tips and relatable stories.

https://youtube.com/@LiveOnPurposeTV

Re: Ask HN: What's your approach to raising kids?

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Might seem extreme but: I had a fairly good, reasonably happy childhood, definitely top 20th percent or so. For other reasons now going through counselling. Now have 2 small kids.

It made me realize how much of my childhood, and attitudes I took from it, wlare actually deeply screwed up. Literally none of it would come to mind without a psychologists help.

I'd say, do a favour to yourself, your kids and your partner, and give the same a try. You'll possibly come up with a ton of toxic stuff your kids don't need embedded in the deepest corners of their psyches.

Re: Ask HN: What's your approach to raising kids?

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Kids wont listen to you kids don't care how much you have thought about something the way you are has more to do with who you are not what you think and the way they will be is more like what you are Your kids spend most of their time with people who are not you

control and choice is an illusion that follows a chain of high pressure, highly emotional situations.

Get a dog - learn to train it. Having kids is like that - except its cleverer than you, doesn't want to make you happy all the time and wages psychological warfare to figure out how to get what it wants at all times. Or at least the fun kids that will make you wish you had a plan in retrospect will.

When you have a second kid you will do things differently - you will be wrong then too. good luck

your kids wont like what you do - they are not you and they will value different things to you.

Help them discover that and support that - unless they don't want to. they wont.

My best advice would be to get good at minecraft.

Re: Ask HN: What's your approach to raising kids?

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> Did you think about what sort of parent you'd like to be and work backwards? > Did you think about what makes a good kid and work backwards? > Did you align with a "style" of parenting?

No to all of these since as you wrote there are so many contradictory approaches it's in the end up to you and anything is justifiable.

My (Asian) wife is stereotypical tiger mom when it comes to school and find western standards extremely lazy at least 1-2 years behind China in school, so i have more western laidback approach and find 46/48 points perfectly fine score, no need to have literally perfect score, the west ain't that competetive as China. I try to praise my kids, not only point out errors, since I remember my parents didn't really praise me for anything and I also tell kid grades are not that important, teachers are not really that smart and other real facts, which maybe is not so good for illusions, but I think truth is better.

> How did you use technology to help you?

Not much really, I think security cam can be useful to watch your kids if they are falling asleep or sleeping.

We are also watching TV in evenings with headphones to not disturb kids and enjoy sound without compromise, I've never liked hearing my parents watching TV in other rooms. Another thing I didn't like was glass door on my kids room next to hallway where there was always light going through when my mother was going early to work, so all my doors in apartment have no glass, just solid "wood" (well, it's paper, but I mean there is nothing transparent).

I find foam carpet (those puzzles you can connect) useful for small kids learning to sleep by themselves in case they would fall down at least they won't fall on hard surface plus it's also better for neighbor below us. Not really a fan of dust attracting fabric carpets.

> Did you keep your kids away from technology (like watching TV) for the first couple of years or just go for it?

Yes, I despise lazy parents who are giving young kids phone/tablet in their hand since very early age. My kids rather play by themselves various games or read a lot books. It helped my wife didn't work for many years so at least she could watch them or do stuff with them. TBH I despise even adults checking the mobile while having lunch with others. For first few years we had no screen time at all besides maybe few minutes of videocall per month, later we went to like 30 minutes per day, now when kids are in (pre)school they watch TV 45-60 minutes per day before dinner and son got retro video game (gameboy style), but they still can play only like 10-20 minutes per day. We don't have any tablets and only recently I started to watch with kids few minutes per day some funny short videos from Reddit (like kidsareFstupid, dammnthatsinteresting, whatcouldgowrong) which I save under my profile if I find them suitable for kids educatory or funny, so it's mostly stupid children, animals or technology.

Also since we were living in beginning in wife's country and din't know where we will move we spoke with first kid first few years only English and later after moving to country where we settle I started to speak to kid in local language of that country to prepare it for kindergarten and wife started to introduce Chinese. With 2nd kid she started with Chinese combined with English and me local language combined with English, I don't teach my own mother tongue since it is similar to local language to not confuse kids and only in recent months I started to teach some words which are different in both my local and mother languages (which is also their citizenship klanguage, but they don't speak it).

> What would you do differently if you had your time again?

Can't really think of anything, maybe start introducing nuts in extremely small doses since early age to build tolerance, since both my kids have quite strong nuts allergy, which is interesting considering me and wife have both none food allergy.

Also maybe less negative in front of the kid since older kid is copying my behavior, but gets angrier than me, I was not like that as child, but it's difficult with character, younger kid has completely opposite character, so don't think I can influence character that much.

Oh and I'd get them vaxxed against chickenpox (VZV) or go to chickenpox party at early age (3-4yo), it's not dangerous but the money would be worth avoiding it, especially since son seems to have permanently damaged skin in some spots, no issues with younger daughter, son got it quite late at 7 and it also ruined our vacation plans. So can't recommend this more - either chickenpox party at early age or chickenpox vax, don't wait until your kid is 7, older they get the worse is the disease.

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