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Aicracy – Governed by Algorithms

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Re: Aicracy – Governed by Algorithms

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Post by bbor »

gampleman wrote: post #10

I get this was a design/art project and not necessarily meant to be sophisticated political philosophy, nonetheless there are a few distinctions here that would be useful: To be ruled by AI I think requires the AI to be in some sense conscious, to have some notion of I and be able to form its own values and goals. Otherwise the ruler is whoever imposes/creates the AI, just in a once removed sort of way. On the other…

Great points, I think they used “AI” to be a bit provocative on purpose. IMO this is really more about taking the concepts of pure utilitarianism to their extreme, as enshrined by systems and technologies that rule our lives. This fits the term “artificial intelligence” very well I think, but in a very different way than how it’s used today (I.e. conscious AGI agents or stats-based ML models)

Re: Aicracy – Governed by Algorithms

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Post by _gfwu »

freemanon wrote: post #20
clericbob wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You know you can disagree with a conclusion, right?

Neutrality is a prerequisite for discussions. This project is not a discussion.

> Neutrality is a prerequisite for discussions

I have a hard time understanding how a person who has ever talked to another person in their life could have that viewpoint.

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Post by elil17 »

twak wrote: post #29

My old supervisor wrote a book on computational socialism back in 93. I rather like some of the ideas (can a participatory centrally planned economy work now that we have internet/cybernetics?), but suspect it wouldn't work in practice. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Towards_a_New_Socialism

See also The People’s Republic of Walmart

Re: Aicracy – Governed by Algorithms

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Post by hemmert »

phoe-krk wrote: post #3
hemmert wrote: post #2

We tried to create everyday objects from a fictional world in which we somehow chose to be governed by algorithms. The scariest thing about it was that nothing we came up with doesn't already happen in some way.

If you're the author(s), this possibly could be Show HN.

Yes, I am – I'm a professor of Industrial Design, this was my class in which the students designed the objects. Should I rename it to Show HN?

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Post by hemmert »

maest wrote: post #8

> This will help you to conveniently find the products that match your taste, your wallet, and your societal value. To increase your societal value, just be yourself and actively contribute as much as you can. Your efforts will not remain unrewarded. This is supposed to be dystopian etc, but don't we already have this mechanism in place in our current world? It's called money.

It was more aimed at personalized pricing in insurances e.g., but money is indeed all that, too.

Re: Aicracy – Governed by Algorithms

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Post by hemmert »

ly3xqhl8g9 wrote: post #12

Algocracy [1] sounds somewhat better, but as any barbarism, Medieval Latin algorismus , a mangled transliteration of the Arabic al-Khwarizmi + kratos , Ancient Greek word for power, is just as wrong. The issue however is that society does not have a technology problem, it has a metaphysics problem: under, over, and for what should there be a we . Hence why all the futures we imagine through technology can barely go b…

I think we're losing that 'we' in many instances, even if it feels like being 'more connected', it's less 'together' often.
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