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My Controversial Opinion: Ventura Is Apple’s Worst macOS Yet

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's weird that this works. What are they using to prompt you to sign up? Edit: OK, I just answered my own question. At the top it says: "You have 2 free member-only stories left this month. Sign up for Medium and get an extra one" You only get ONE more story to read after signing up? That's very misleading.

Probably cookies and javascript. Lots of sites would like to make the paywalls immediate, but they won't get ranked highly on search engines if they don't show the article's content to a web crawler. So the usual approach is to load the content, then hide it as quickly as possible if an unauthorized human is viewing the page.

Exactly, which is why extensions like Bypass Paywalls Clean can easily bypass these paywalls just by changing some Javascript.

Re: My Controversial Opinion: Ventura Is Apple’s Worst macOS Yet

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post #19

To me the idea of having to allow devices to connect is completely wrong. I have already undertaken a physical action to connect a device, why would I suddenly change my mind afterwards? The physical act itself IS the permission. What does it help when the OS asks you "are you sure"?

This thread clearly shows that even in 2023 people still don't understand USB attack vectors and still think this is some evil move by Apple to degrade the user experience

I understand what's going on but how does asking the user for permission help? They're just going to click accept, ok, whatever to continue working. I doubt the user will even understand what's going on.

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To me the idea of having to allow devices to connect is completely wrong. I have already undertaken a physical action to connect a device, why would I suddenly change my mind afterwards? The physical act itself IS the permission. What does it help when the OS asks you "are you sure"?

Guessing here but maybe it's supposed to be a security measure. What if you're in an office or public space and you have a hub or dock connected. A malicious actor could plug in an unknown device while you step away from the machine. I also have Logitech peripherals that connect wirelessly to a USB receiver. I wouldn't want my receiver and machine accepting a connection from an unknown device.

Having some kind of device key that will trigger a pop up similar to the SSH host verification on the first connection would be better. No spam every time I connect the phone to charge it and getting a dialog for MITM attempts.

Re: My Controversial Opinion: Ventura Is Apple’s Worst macOS Yet

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His first gripe is the prompt for USB HID devices, where he even has been told the correct answer but attempts to pretend it away. Unfortunately, Apple is right whether or not he appreciates how many people have tried clever attacks – see https://github.com/topics/hid-attacks – but my favorite write up is this one: https://lcamtuf.coredump.cx/plasma_globe/

How common is it though? This was my beef with Apple too, they add security to the point it was actively getting in my way. I'm sure my house would be more secure if I auto-locked every room and they all had seperate keys but it would also be incredibly annoying.

I don't use a Mac anymore but does Apple also prompt you for plugging in say a Magic Mouse or Keyboard for pairing?

Re: My Controversial Opinion: Ventura Is Apple’s Worst macOS Yet

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Guessing here but maybe it's supposed to be a security measure. What if you're in an office or public space and you have a hub or dock connected. A malicious actor could plug in an unknown device while you step away from the machine. I also have Logitech peripherals that connect wirelessly to a USB receiver. I wouldn't want my receiver and machine accepting a connection from an unknown device.

Having some kind of device key that will trigger a pop up similar to the SSH host verification on the first connection would be better. No spam every time I connect the phone to charge it and getting a dialog for MITM attempts.

That’s what Ventura does…

Re: My Controversial Opinion: Ventura Is Apple’s Worst macOS Yet

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post #3

His first gripe is the prompt for USB HID devices, where he even has been told the correct answer but attempts to pretend it away. Unfortunately, Apple is right whether or not he appreciates how many people have tried clever attacks – see https://github.com/topics/hid-attacks – but my favorite write up is this one: https://lcamtuf.coredump.cx/plasma_globe/

How common is it though? This was my beef with Apple too, they add security to the point it was actively getting in my way. I'm sure my house would be more secure if I auto-locked every room and they all had seperate keys but it would also be incredibly annoying. I don't use a Mac anymore but does Apple also prompt you for plugging in say a Magic Mouse or Keyboard for pairing?

They do.

Re: My Controversial Opinion: Ventura Is Apple’s Worst macOS Yet

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For me for some reason printers added from the print dialog do not work, printers added from settings work just fine. But generally the update has been pretty good.

To be fair compared to this Windows machine I'm forced to use for work, MacOS is so far ahead I cannot believe it. I just had to reboot because the OS seems have the keyboard stop working every couple of days of uptime. Everything is buggy, flakey and un-slick in the extreme (screen flickering and weird UI tearing everywhere, reboots for the most trivial changes). Little things like UX that are just horrible like connecting Bluetooth devices through to the first character you type on the keyboard on the login screen is ignored. I'd think Linux on the Desktop has to be better at this point.

I really cannot believe it hasn't improved since Windows XP days in any meaningful way and regressed a lot in quite a few.

Re: My Controversial Opinion: Ventura Is Apple’s Worst macOS Yet

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post #11

wait so under ventura, im going to get prompted everytime i plug in my dock or usb to hdmi adapters for my monitos?

Only the first time for each monitor, I believe. It's really fine.

... but how do you click allow when it's prompting for whether to allow your keyboard and mouse?

Re: My Controversial Opinion: Ventura Is Apple’s Worst macOS Yet

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post #3

His first gripe is the prompt for USB HID devices, where he even has been told the correct answer but attempts to pretend it away. Unfortunately, Apple is right whether or not he appreciates how many people have tried clever attacks – see https://github.com/topics/hid-attacks – but my favorite write up is this one: https://lcamtuf.coredump.cx/plasma_globe/

How common is it though? This was my beef with Apple too, they add security to the point it was actively getting in my way. I'm sure my house would be more secure if I auto-locked every room and they all had seperate keys but it would also be incredibly annoying. I don't use a Mac anymore but does Apple also prompt you for plugging in say a Magic Mouse or Keyboard for pairing?

Magic Mouse and Keyboard do not prompt once the relationship has been created over Bluetooth. Once they are disassociated, then you have to re-pair to get them on again.
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