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Re: Ask HN: What Next After Ubuntu?

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Post by BirAdam »

I have been using Linux since the late 90s, and honestly, there's no correct answer. I use AlmaLinux for serious stuff. I use Intel's Clear Linux on my workstation. I use Slackware for hobbyist stuff.

In your case, I would suggest taking a serious look at Debian since you're already using it via Ubuntu. While I do not care for rule by committee, Debian has a rather good track record. You may also want to look at Pop! OS

https://pop.system76.com/

Beyond Debian and Pop!, Arch is quite common. I never cared for it personally, but many people (and many whom I respect) love it.

Re: Ask HN: What Next After Ubuntu?

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Post by microtonal »

Lucasoato wrote: post #20
cmdlinecowboy wrote: post #8

Red Hat for enterprise use, Fedora for personal desktop use. One of the largest communities you’ll find. If you want Debian based maybe just straight Debian. The centos debacle was poorly handled but I think what red hat was /trying/ to do made sense. The community just wasn’t there to sustain it. Red Hat was paying to give away free RHEL basically lol. CentOS Stream should have just been called RHEL Stream. It’s bas…

Is there any specific reason to choose them over Linux Mint? I'm genuinely asking, I've never tried Red Hat or Fedora.

Fedora is much more secure (a strong focus on SELinux, secure boot, etc.). Fedora has more cutting edge software (latest GNOME, gcc, etc.) while still being very stable.

A large chunk of the gcc/glibc/GNOME/Wayland/... developers are employed by Red Hat and Fedora shows that, it's where the Linux workstation is going and has an amazingly good of integration of new tech. Most other mainstream distributions trail by several years.

Re: Ask HN: What Next After Ubuntu?

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Post by tkuraku »

RHEL/Rocky for server / Enterprise.

Debian is another option that I also use for my personal workstation. Debian is nice in that there won't be any crazy profit driven decisions. It is super stable. I think it is a much saner option than Ubuntu.

Re: Ask HN: What Next After Ubuntu?

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Post by microtonal »

yoyohello13 wrote: post #75
maxk42 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately Fedora has been making a lot of similar decisions to Ubuntu lately, although it's still better IMO. I'd say coming from Ubuntu, Mint is probably a lower learning curve anyway.

What decisions? Fedora is my daily driver and I follow Fedora dev pretty closely, so far they haven’t done anything like Ubuntu. Maybe the custom Flathub repo? But that’s a requirement for them since they can’t host proprietary software for legal reasons.

As far as I understand, the next Fedora release will stop masking most of Flathub by default.

Re: Ask HN: What Next After Ubuntu?

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Post by cesarb »

> I have been running Ubuntu on servers and desktops for around twenty years

If you have been running Ubuntu for that long, and don't have much experience with other distributions, the stable distribution you will probably feel the most comfortable with will be Debian. From an administration point of view, they are very similar; not only do both use dpkg and apt for package management, but also small things like details of the structure of the configuration in /etc are very similar. This is because Ubuntu started as, and still is, a derivative of the much older Debian distribution. The only thing you might miss would be Ubuntu-specific stuff like snaps; and you might also get a bit annoyed by Debian stable having older versions of packages than you might be used to (it's a slow-moving distribution, more similar to enterprise distributions like RHEL in that aspect).

Re: Ask HN: What Next After Ubuntu?

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Post by tmtvl »

hanniabu wrote: post #44
vorticalbox wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> isn't broken don't fix it Though in this case it's likely to keep it accessible to people we slow internet connections.

It's 1.4mb for an incredibly simple page, and a modern design doesn't mean it needs to be some bloated webapp

1.4 MB? WTH, Debian's current page is 14 KB, that is 0.014 MB. 1.4 MB, good grief, that is larger than Dostoyevsky's Crime and Punishment.

Re: Ask HN: What Next After Ubuntu?

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Post by johnny22 »

bloopernova wrote: post #37
maxk42 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately Fedora has been making a lot of similar decisions to Ubuntu lately, although it's still better IMO. I'd say coming from Ubuntu, Mint is probably a lower learning curve anyway.

Could you please give some examples of those similar decisions? I'm eager to find any evidence of the Fedora admins as bad actors.

I haven't seen a decision made in the past that would be relevant, but there is one for future fedora releases https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/269 about installing certain apps as flatpaks rather than rpms by default. These would be fedora based flatpaks rather than from flathub.

It does not actually say how it interacts with existing rpms or whether said rpms will continue to exist or be maintained in the future.

I would say it's too early to get up in arms about just yet.

Me personally, I agree with this approach, but a lot of other people clearly won't.

Re: Ask HN: What Next After Ubuntu?

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Post by ac130kz »

NixOS stable or good ol Debian stable. Both are smooth, but NixOS is just such a joy to configure with generic hardware and software configurations, yet you don't get the feel that everything has to be manual like on Gentoo or Arch.
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