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Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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Post by RogerL »

boomboomsubban wrote: post #383
joshmanders wrote: post #376

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Woz is being a total piece of shit, wasting their time being intentionally as suspicious as possible, just to waste their time and then pull off a "a-ha You know who's really wasting peoples time? Secret Service and a casino security guard because he tipped with legal tender that they haven't seen before, so they think he's some counterfeiter or something. I'd fuck with authority who was too stupid to realize that…

If you worked someplace handling money and saw a bill with perforated edges, you'd definitely consider it suspicious. That doesn't require someone to be stupid.

Not only that, but why does having lower cognitive ability suddenly mean that others have free rein to mock you, make your workplace unpleasant, and so on? People are just trying to do their job and aren't necessarily educated on the intricacies of federal law on currency.

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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Post by Slighted »

Invictus0 wrote: post #321

This comment section is really disappointing. Should change the name of the site to Anal-Retentive Snobs News.

Its unfortunate how many people can't take a joke. Wozniak certainly wasn't wasting anyone's time as the bills were legal. Wozniak didn't have to deal with the SS agent either and could've easily invoked his 5th amendment right to silence, but he was cooperative instead. Based on the story, it doesn't look as though he claimed his fake ID was a legitimate one either and just handed it over as part of a generic question.

No, don't try to tell me how the secret service agent and the casino employees were victims and how this somehow ties into white privilege or some crap like that. Try spending some time off the internet and return to real life.

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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Post by z3c0 »

latchkey wrote: post #394
quesera wrote: post #377

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Americans want to believe. Call it "optimism", if you're feeling generous. American exceptionalism is a thing to believe in which satisfies all of the needs of a believer. It's part of the belief triad "god-family-country". The military is an extension of the country. There is very little visible military presence in the US, and the military has no role in civilian affairs except in cases of temporary callup for natu…

> Americans are optimistic people. My optimism died the second time Bush Jr. was elected, but I'm only 49.

I think the political group being spoken of here would've been the crowd reinvigorated by his election.

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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Post by RogerL »

erosenbe0 wrote: post #380
dist1ll wrote: post #36

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Isn't it pretty irresponsible to commit a felony while you have a daughter and wife to take care of? I find his nonchalant delivery quite jarring. I don't understand what's going through his head here.

Woz is embellishing for dramatic effect. Decades ago, picture ID meant anything. You could get on a plane sometimes with a school ID. Before holograms and bar codes on driver's licenses, all IDs were presumed to be garbage and just a way to get the spelling of a person's name if in fact the ID was real. Woz was not in custody and is therefore exaggerating about being Mirandized. He played a prank by giving his clown…

Mid 80s I flew home to visit family. Wallet was stolen while rock climbing (I foolishly left it at the base in my pack). Have to fly home, what to do?? Easy peasy. Go to the local ski mountain where I knew the employees, had them make me a bogus laminated employee card with my photo on it, and flew back home using it for my id. No problem.

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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Post by z3c0 »

sandworm101 wrote: post #428
coeneedell wrote: post #267

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No matter what country you’re in, the military is in a position of authority (except maybe Costa Rica). Generally people consider a lie to be worse if it’s a lie you can use to get power.

Authority isnt the word. Im in the military and that gives me absolutely zero authority in civilian life. It would be a crime for me to even attempt to wield such. But i do expect a modicum of extra respect for people who give up time/money/priviledges of civilian life in order to serve thier country. I dont expect cops to let me get away with speeding, but i do expect them not to detain me by the roadside in uniform…

I agree with you overall, but that "serve their country" line makes me cringe every time. The military's operations are vast and numerous, but also politically-motivated and, at times, disgustingly utilitarian. Obviously, no grunt should bear that burden, but I feel better served by the post office.

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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Post by Animats »

Oh, the notebook full of tear-off dollar bills. That used to be a thing. I once read that it was originated by the publicity director of Palisades Amusement Park in New Jersey. Although setting them up for 4-up and perforated is over complicating things.

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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Post by [deleted] »

dbingham wrote: post #363
ipaddr wrote: post #232

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When everyone comes from the same background and/or culture there is a shared understanding. Mix two different cultures and you have less shared background mix in 100 and you have little. It's not a race issue when this is experienced in Africa/Japan/Sweden/Finland. Calling new idea to you racist is racist. Most of the times the word racist is used it is used incorrectly and often in a racist way.

It's not a new idea to me. It's an idea I've encountered many times, often propping up arguments of various kinds against pluralistic societies - which is an argument implicit in the comment above. Those arguments lead directly to ideas around ethnonationalism and segregating societies by cultural background, which is a direct analog for ethnicity. There's a straight line between that argument - which again, almost a…

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Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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Post by landemva »

RogerL wrote: post #434
erosenbe0 wrote: post #380

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Woz is embellishing for dramatic effect. Decades ago, picture ID meant anything. You could get on a plane sometimes with a school ID. Before holograms and bar codes on driver's licenses, all IDs were presumed to be garbage and just a way to get the spelling of a person's name if in fact the ID was real. Woz was not in custody and is therefore exaggerating about being Mirandized. He played a prank by giving his clown…

Mid 80s I flew home to visit family. Wallet was stolen while rock climbing (I foolishly left it at the base in my pack). Have to fly home, what to do?? Easy peasy. Go to the local ski mountain where I knew the employees, had them make me a bogus laminated employee card with my photo on it, and flew back home using it for my id. No problem.

I flew in mid-90s with no ID on tickets booked in name of office manager.

Can still fly in USA without ID. The checkpoint "agents" have you sign a special form. Last summer I "Scotch" taped the crap out of the barcode and picture on my passport. Checkpoint person asked me why and I mumbled because the real answer was "to see what happens." She called supervisor and he quickly waved me through. May be different effect at immigration.

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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Post by jameslk »

dbingham wrote: post #156
JuniorBalleg wrote: post #134

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When an entire population is far more homogeneous than most modern Western states, the heightened social trust and cohesion permits this kind of harmless fun (among many other benefits). It's one of those sacrifices made to accommodate diversity which is almost impossible to quantify and existentially unsettling to even try.

> the heightened social trust and cohesion permits this kind of harmless fun This needs a citation. It's the sort of "common sense" all too often advanced by people with - frankly - racist or ethnonational agendas.

> This needs a citation. It's the sort of "common sense" all too often advanced by people with - frankly - racist or ethnonational agendas.

Jumping straight to claiming someone has a racist or ethnonational agenda because they didn't provide a citation seems uncharitable. It comes off as a worse form of sealioning. I'm not sure if you're trying to do that intentionally but I mention it so you can understand the hostility it may create.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1467-9477.2007...

From Wikipedia on the study:

Harvard professor of political science Robert D. Putnam conducted a nearly decade long study on how diversity affects social trust. He surveyed 26,200 people in 40 American communities, finding that when the data were adjusted for class, income and other factors, the more racially diverse a community is, the greater the loss of trust. People in diverse communities "don't trust the local mayor, they don't trust the local paper, they don't trust other people and they don't trust institutions," writes Putnam.

That said, there can both be problems and benefits of something, and in his research on diversity this is considered:

Putnam says, however, that "in the long run immigration and diversity are likely to have important cultural, economic, fiscal, and developmental benefits."

He asserted that his "extensive research and experience confirm the substantial benefits of diversity, including racial and ethnic diversity, to our society."

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