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Testing Noctua’s NH-P1 with Ryzen 7700x and Intel’s i9-13900K

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Re: Testing Noctua’s NH-P1 with Ryzen 7700x and Intel’s i9-13900K

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Post by jeffbee »

dogma1138 wrote: post #46
m463 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did a lot of research for a theadripper, including AIO liquid cooling and all the reviews said noctua fans were as just as effective and as quiet for a fraction of the price and complexity.

The U14 or D15 cost about as much as a 360/420 AIO. Whilst they can have similar performance you aren’t saving on costs especially when you buy a 2nd fan for the main cooler which is another $25 or so if it’s Noctua.

I switched from a Noctua to a 320mm AIO and was not happy. The cooling capacity with the AIO is slightly higher, but it makes much more sound at idle. The pump never stops and unlike a loafing fan it makes a high-Q tone that is clearly audible in a quiet room. That was very disappointing. All the reviews said the AIO is “silent” which would have been easily disproven by objective measurements, even with free apps on a smartphone.

Re: Testing Noctua’s NH-P1 with Ryzen 7700x and Intel’s i9-13900K

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Post by dijit »

bjoli wrote: post #57
anthonyryan1 wrote: post #52

I feel compelled to mention that this space has existed as a niche community for many years now. I've personally been using a NoFan CR-80EH in my workstations for over 10 years. I think it's subjectively the most beautiful heatsink I've ever seen. You do need to plan your build to accomodate such a cooler though. - Open Air case to allow free movement of air in and out of your case - 65W TDP CPU While a lot of people…

I always wanted to do such a project and decided to go for it. I ended up hating it because it made me realize how much I hate coil whine. I mean: it looks so friggin cool, and placing it on your desk will probably give much better air circulation than under it. No fans spinning just made me realize how much noise most computers make that is hidden under fan noise. I did have dedicated graphics card though, but a pas…

FWIW Coil Whine affects some machines much more than others.

The sad part is, coil whine is unpredictable, two machines with the same make/models can behave differently.

Coil whine is usually much more noticeable when you fully load a system too.

What I would do is buy components and then fully load them as much as I could, and RMA anything with noticeable whine.

It's not "normal", Dell XPSs for example were notorious for bad coil whine where as my macbook air doesn't have any at all.

Re: Testing Noctua’s NH-P1 with Ryzen 7700x and Intel’s i9-13900K

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Post by caycep »

Normal_gaussian wrote: post #5

Is there a good aggregation of cooler performance somewhere? I've recently completed a build for the first time in a decade and was pleasantly surprised by tools like PC Part Picker, the assembly was a breeze (many micro improvements by everyone), and everything 'just worked'. Literally the only question I was out cold for was which cooler is good enough? With some coolers rivaling RAM costs and cases having fixings…

For just Noctua, they have a numerical rating scale for all their models, I think.

SilentPCreview?

Re: Testing Noctua’s NH-P1 with Ryzen 7700x and Intel’s i9-13900K

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Post by zokier »

jeffbee wrote: post #61
dogma1138 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The U14 or D15 cost about as much as a 360/420 AIO. Whilst they can have similar performance you aren’t saving on costs especially when you buy a 2nd fan for the main cooler which is another $25 or so if it’s Noctua.

I switched from a Noctua to a 320mm AIO and was not happy. The cooling capacity with the AIO is slightly higher, but it makes much more sound at idle. The pump never stops and unlike a loafing fan it makes a high-Q tone that is clearly audible in a quiet room. That was very disappointing. All the reviews said the AIO is “silent” which would have been easily disproven by objective measurements, even with free apps on…

I'm in similar boat; my current desktop has 360mm aio cooling, and it makes me wonder what is peoples baseline if it can in any way be considered quiet. It feels louder than any my past aircooled builds, I definitely expected more from it.

Re: Testing Noctua’s NH-P1 with Ryzen 7700x and Intel’s i9-13900K

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Post by smileybarry »

amaranth wrote: post #38
smileybarry wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was probably taken down for being published before the embargo dropped, since it shows the 7700X.

The 7700X came out months ago, the one supposedly coming out soon is the 7700X3D.

Ah right, they just released the non-X models and the X3D, not the X-s.

Re: Testing Noctua’s NH-P1 with Ryzen 7700x and Intel’s i9-13900K

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Post by onli »

def_true_false wrote: post #59
politelemon wrote: post #9

This does look interesting, PC building has improved by bounds and bounds in recent times, giving me better performance and longevity for my money. This fanless design is worth a consideration, the current go-to for people who want silence is AIO liquid coolers. They aren't terrible but do affect radiator placement. If this NH P1 can be prove viable for gaming setups it might take off. > Nonetheless, I strapped on No…

AIOs are far from silent.

AIOs can be very quiet. Mine is (Corsair H90), but only when the pump is not running full speed (then it is quiet, but not very quiet).

Re: Testing Noctua’s NH-P1 with Ryzen 7700x and Intel’s i9-13900K

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Post by PufPufPuf »

I noticed that this page published 5 reviews in total, starting just three months ago. I wonder how they convinced the companies to send them hardware to review (even if it's not "free" and they have to return it afterwards). I always thought that these large corporations only care about big reviewers / influencers.

Re: Testing Noctua’s NH-P1 with Ryzen 7700x and Intel’s i9-13900K

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Post by ChuckNorris89 »

anthonyryan1 wrote: post #52

I feel compelled to mention that this space has existed as a niche community for many years now. I've personally been using a NoFan CR-80EH in my workstations for over 10 years. I think it's subjectively the most beautiful heatsink I've ever seen. You do need to plan your build to accomodate such a cooler though. - Open Air case to allow free movement of air in and out of your case - 65W TDP CPU While a lot of people…

>this space has existed as a niche community for many years now

Yes, I also remember the passive cooling community has existed for a long time, with it being a very big thing when PCs were loud monstrosities, but I feel it has peaked sometime in the mid to late '00s and has been slowly loosing momentum since active cooling solutions became much quieter and better at ramping up/down with load, with most CPUs, GPUs, PSUs coolers nowadays even turning fully off when idling or under low load, along with the shift from PCs to mobile devices, making the need for passive-only PC cooling solutions a small and expensive niche that not many venture into.

Re: Testing Noctua’s NH-P1 with Ryzen 7700x and Intel’s i9-13900K

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Post by AnotherGoodName »

PufPufPuf wrote: post #68

I noticed that this page published 5 reviews in total, starting just three months ago. I wonder how they convinced the companies to send them hardware to review (even if it's not "free" and they have to return it afterwards). I always thought that these large corporations only care about big reviewers / influencers.

They usually spin off from forum posters on larger sites who have been buying and reviewing their own gear as forum posts and have enough clout from those communities that they start to be sent things.
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