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Australians scour desert for dangerous radioactive capsule smaller than a penny

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Re: Australians scour desert for dangerous radioactive capsule smaller than a penny

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This also happened in Ukraine. The capsule was lost in a gravel pit and ended up being built into the wall of an apartment and several people died as a result. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kramatorsk_radiological_accide...

Not really a regionally significant nuclear accident then. About the same as a gas leak?

Not to rehash my other comment, but depending on the nature of the source it might become regionally significant if somebody screws up bad enough.

Re: Australians scour desert for dangerous radioactive capsule smaller than a penny

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>You are only asking questions, I understand. Please don't do that here [1]. Where in the HN rules is it forbidding to ask questions?

> Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, bots, brigading, foreign agents and the like.

I think he's referring to this. Indeed, there's nothing wrong with asking questions. I imagine that "you're only asking questions" is a reference to an usual technique of conspiracy theorists of pretending they're just asking questions to defend against being called out on baseless accusations. "Are they putting something in the water that's making the frogs gay? I'm just asking questions".

We don't know the intent here, but I agree with him that "something doesn't add up" could be an insinuation of conspiracy theory, and so against the guidelines.

Re: Australians scour desert for dangerous radioactive capsule smaller than a penny

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Not my question at all. How can it be so deadly/radioactive, yet so hard to detect? Further, asking questions is indeed the point of these discussions. Re-reading the standards I see no prohibition. And reading that reference article, the loss it cites was 19Tb (19 trillion bequerels). This lost capsule in Australia contains less than 100. So around what? 10 billion times less dangerous? Thanks for the reference mate…

I think it’s more about a failure of process than this particular piece of radioactive material. Being proportionally cavalier about it would invite lazier handling. The next piece of radioactive material could be more dangerous. The mining company will be sent the bill and police get to practice a real life scenario. And everyone knows don’t do that again.

Re: Australians scour desert for dangerous radioactive capsule smaller than a penny

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Not really a regionally significant nuclear accident then. About the same as a gas leak?

“A few people here may die” is a relatively serious nuclear accident. Worse than three-mile island at least.

I don’t disagree. But I wonder if the cost to recovering this pellet would save more lives spent in another way.

Re: Australians scour desert for dangerous radioactive capsule smaller than a penny

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>You are only asking questions, I understand. Please don't do that here [1]. Where in the HN rules is it forbidding to ask questions?

> Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, bots, brigading, foreign agents and the like. I think he's referring to this. Indeed, there's nothing wrong with asking questions. I imagine that "you're only asking questions" is a reference to an usual technique of conspiracy theorists of pretending they're just asking questions to defend against being called out on baseless accusations. "Are they putti…

I read that as "don't accuse other HN users of being shills" not "you can't say this news article seems a little suspect".

Re: Australians scour desert for dangerous radioactive capsule smaller than a penny

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really a regionally significant nuclear accident then. About the same as a gas leak?

“A few people here may die” is a relatively serious nuclear accident. Worse than three-mile island at least.

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Re: Australians scour desert for dangerous radioactive capsule smaller than a penny

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Interview question: can you design a system to safely locate and retrieve the capsule?

Do you want it to scale horizontally, vertically, or both?

It could be stuck in a tree, so probably both.

Re: Australians scour desert for dangerous radioactive capsule smaller than a penny

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Interview question: can you design a system to safely locate and retrieve the capsule?

I don't know if something like that would help, but in Switzerland there are annual measurement flights (with a helicopter): https://blog.alertswiss.ch/en/categories/focp-news/annual-ne...

Part of this seems to be (sometimes?) to find radioactive sources: "The goal of this part of the exercise was to find two radioactive sources which, for training purposes, had been placed somewhere in an area of about 2,500 km2"

Re: Australians scour desert for dangerous radioactive capsule smaller than a penny

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>You are only asking questions, I understand. Please don't do that here [1]. Where in the HN rules is it forbidding to ask questions?

> Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, bots, brigading, foreign agents and the like. I think he's referring to this. Indeed, there's nothing wrong with asking questions. I imagine that "you're only asking questions" is a reference to an usual technique of conspiracy theorists of pretending they're just asking questions to defend against being called out on baseless accusations. "Are they putti…

That rule bans exactly what he's doing, accusing people of "just asking questions" in the derogatory sense.
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