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Re: Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining?

#751
post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>being a grown-ass adult in pajamas out in public I'm with you about all the other things but people wearing whatever clothes they want to affects you in literally no way shape or form.

I enjoy the fact the American „clothing culture“, e.g. going to the shop in rags, hasn’t caught on in Europe yet.

Rags? As in, pre-torn jeans? No, we had those in Europe in the 90s. Or was it the 80s?

Re: Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining?

#752
>Landlords seem extremely greedy

>People are noisy as fuck

>General worker apathy is endemic

>Seems like everything is subscription model

>Police seem to not give a shit anymore

In my personal opinion all of these are related and it is like this because an average person has nothing left to strive for.

Example: a property I've bought 2 years ago went up by 20%. There's very few people who can keep up with such crazy price increases. Who can keep up with something like this? Certainly not a McDonalds employee, nor a regular policeman. Even if they do get a raise it won't make a much of an impact because it will be instantly devoured by a rent increase or by some subscription service raising prices. The numbers will go up but the standard of living decreases.

So why would they care? No one seems to care about the problems of these people, so what incentive they have to care about others?

Re: Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining?

#753

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some day soon I’ll be the parent their boyfriends will come home to meet. I hope they feel they have the freedom to wear what they’re comfortable in and that represents their genuine identity. Really? My hope is that I don't raise my daughter so poorly she ends up with a slob who wears pyjama in public.

You can hope, but it’s nowhere within your circle of control. Every non-parent says “my kid will never…”, which is comical. The most surprising part of parenting to me was how wildly different each child’s personality and temperament are, and how little control I have to affect any of it.

My take on it is that there's no point using coercion to force kids to comply with your values and preferences. That will work while you have direct control over their lives as a parent, but the moment they're free adults living away from home, you have no further control and therefore no further say or influence in their lives.

I'm not saying you shouldn't exorcise control at all, as a parent you're responsible for their safety and behaviour. I just mean that coercion should be an emergency backstop that you use as little as possible.

The best approach is to explain why you are asking them to behave a certain way, and why you think certain choices in their lives are preferable, because you think they will lead to them having better lives. Drugs is a classic example, I tried weed when I was in my 20s but never anything stronger. I tried cigarettes. Ive been honest with my kids about it, and explained why I thought stronger drugs weren't for me, and how I saw them affect people I knew. I think that built a lot of trust. The objective is to give them the framing so that when I'm not there and they have an opportunity to try drugs, they will be able to make reasoned informed decisions that they take responsibility for. The same goes for sex, or dangerous sports, or any risk.

Re: Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining?

#754
post #728
post #725

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be honest, the regime change in Afghanistan was kind of working, at least that's what it looked to me when I was there in 2010. Then the western world lost interest and withdrew

How long were we supposed to enforce the regime change there?

The right thing is let every country run in their way. Don't interfere. It is wise for U.S. army to withdraw from Afghanistan.

I resent the Taliban for depriving of the right of women to receive eductaion, but that doesn't mean I support meddling in other countries' internal affairs. Believe in Afghanistan will generate an enlightened regime in the future.

Re: Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining?

#755

I've noticed similar things as well. Especially in contexts where no observability is available as CCTVs or other people. People will behave badly if they can get away unpunished. I disagree with most of the other comments that its a question of wealth. I know religion arguments are unpopular in this crowd. But in my opinion, lack of similar values derived from religion is starting to cause these issues. Because athe…

What are the religious values that you feel the non-religious do not share?

I think no values are shared between all non-religious. Some folks value family and kids, other folks will hate you for that (with unfair advantage & environmental concerns argument). Some folks value community and respect to each other, other folks think it's boring & tyrannical (why should said person listen to rules that there shouldn't be loud music at night?).

To get to the first part of the question, I think religious values do provide certain guarantees. For example, family is placed quite high in all religions. This results in "don't be a loud asshole at night", because whole neighbourhood's parents are tired, kids needs to sleep. In a community like that, the person with loud motorcycle at night will be pressured to stop doing waking up others.

Re: Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining?

#756
post #553

"everything is subscription model [...] pay N times to access something thats only worth 1-3x" For me, 10 bucks a month for music and ~15 for movies/series (~1.5 concurrent subscriptions on average) adds up to less than a percent of my net income. For that, I can watch basically any series, any movie I want, and listen to any music I like. Compare to 99ct/song that was allegedly a very hard sell for the music industr…

>and rent hasn't changed since we moved in in 2018

This sounds incredibly lucky and rare and not the norm. I guess you have a private landlord and not an institution in a big city. BTW, can I ask in which city that is?

Re: Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining?

#757
Serious answer, the earth's magnetic field weakening is accelerating [1] [2].

It began declining in 1859 [3] but the changes have increased in recent times, with the magnetic pole shifting significantly such that even airport runways had to be renumbered [4].

The weakening geomagnetic field leaves earth more vulnerable [5] to inclement space weather [6].

It has been shown in mice, the negative behavioral effects of increased space radiation [7]:

"Studies in murine models have shown that exposure to high-energy 56Fe particles, which are the largest effective dose contributor in the space radiation environment, impairs cognitive function. These impairments include deficits in spatial learning and memory, object recognition, and operant conditioning, which parallel the cognitive decline observed in aged animals. [...] These behavioural studies, taken together with investigations into low dose HZE radiation effects on neurons and neural tissue, illustrate the risks that space radiation may pose to human health."

and [8]:

"Acute and chronic tissue alterations arise from the damaging effects of highly energetic charged particles that penetrate the spacecraft and traverse though the tissues of the body. These fully ionized nuclei are derived chiefly from solar ejection events (e.g. protons) or galactic cosmic rays (GCR) composed of light and heavy ions (Z from 1 to 26)

Past work with rodents has demonstrated that whole body and/or brain exposure to charged particles can elicit various behavioral decrements that can be linked to impairments in the hippocampus, amygdala, basal forebrain, medial prefrontal cortex (mPFC), and other brain domains."

If this model holds true, we can expect things to get worse and worse at an increasing rate in the coming years/decades until the field strengthens.

[1] (2014) Earth's Magnetic Field Is Weakening 10 Times Faster Now https://www.livescience.com/46694-magnetic-field-weakens.htm...

[2] (2020) Earth’s magnetic field anomaly: Scientists have no clue why it is weakening and if it will disappear https://www.timesnownews.com/technology-science/article/eart...

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrington_Event

[4] (2021) https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/news/airport-runway-names-shift-ma...

[5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_magnetic_field#Signi...

[6] Space Weather Prediction Center: National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration https://www.swpc.noaa.gov

[7] Space-like 56Fe irradiation manifests mild, early sex-specific behavioral and neuropathological changes in wildtype and Alzheimer’s-like transgenic mice https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-48615-1

[8] Persistent nature of alterations in cognition and neuronal circuit excitability after exposure to simulated cosmic radiation in mice https://sci-hub.ru/10.1016/j.expneurol.2018.03.009

Re: Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining?

#758
Yes, I agree. Some of the particulars look a bit different here, but the spirit of it is the same.

One thing it fits well with is progression through the Demoralization, and possibly Destabilization, phase(s) of ideological subversion as described by KGB defector Yuri Bezmenov.

Decent legibility charts e.g. here: https://web.archive.org/web/20220412064205/https://wyomingtr...

(EDIT: The organization hosting those charts is rather opinionated about the interpretation and context. Even so, I'm leaving this reference in as the legibility of the charts themselves is higher than for many other copies/scans on the web. Originals can also be found e.g. in the linked https://ia800301.us.archive.org/25/items/BezmenovLoveLetterT... )

Some prior HN discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30470856

A sizable share of the recorded media materials: https://archive.org/details/yuri_bezmenov_all_interviews_lec...

It's hard to prove something like that as a cause, for obvious reasons, but I think the relevance for the features of what we're seeing is hard to deny.

Re: Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining?

#759
post #158

Read Karl Marx, what we're seeing is basically what he described as the end state of capitalism. Everything gets shittier and shittier as costs go up and profits shrink. People and businesses are getting more desperate to prop up profit or make a buck. Everything suffers--worse products as costs are cut, worse service as wages stagnate to cut costs, people are more angry and stressed as their standard of living decli…

That's somewhat of a misrepresentation of what Marx wrote. When Marx lived in 19th century England, he saw first hand the effects of laissez faire capitalism: workers working themselves to death, workers dying by the score in industrial accidents, children working and dying in mines, etc. He predicted with certainty that this trend would continue and lead to a revolution of the many (workers) against the few (capital…

> Workers gained many rights, like limits on work-hours, social insurance, free education for their children (who were banned from working dangerous jobs). Most governments creates successful interventionist policy that "de-fanged" the worst parts of capitalism.

Why do you think that happened? The creation of well fare state was a direct consequence of the existence of the USSR, the presence of socialist/communist/workers parties in democracies everywhere else and the threat it posed to the status quo. Better give some rights and postpone a rupture.

Just notice that after the fall of the USSR, workers rights didn’t improve anymore, in fact it gets worse by the day: any attempt at unionizing gets crushed, wages don’t increase with productivity, and the economy is turning into an “app economy” where workers are not formally employed and live in an even more fragile situation.

So, categorically stating Marx predictions were “wrong” can be a premature conclusion; the alternative is that we have not lived long enough to see a rupture yet, but the rope has been visibly stretching in the past decades.

Re: Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining?

#760
54 years old so here is the mixed bag I have seen in my area (South)

  1. Absolutely there is a decline in quality/cleanliness and low to mid restaurants in my area. I don't even bother checking my order and assume it will be wrong. Many places we go into look like a disaster so my family has just quit eating out. I was at a Red Lobster and two employees got in a scream fight because all the cooks just walked off the job. The manager eventually walked out and shooed everyone that did not have food out the door. I don't know the root cause but the degradation happened post Covid.

  2. People do seem less considerate of others. I have decided to not coach youth soccer anymore due to crazy parents. We had a street fight in my middle class neighborhood. Many other examples - maybe it's my local area but I have lived here most of my life.

  3. I am a middle aged white guy and even I am scared of the police. Scared mainly because they seem so scared and on edge.

  4. The "business" people have taken over IT. I do feel bad for the next generation. We are wealth generators for people that hate to be dependent on us.  

  5. On the plus side, society seems much more tolerant of minorities (race/sexual orientation/religion/etc)
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