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Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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It’s more that he is affluent. Try to imagine white trash pulling this stunt and it wouldn’t go well either.

I’m assuming you don’t know this: white trash is a slur. As in, deeply offensive to some people.

Sir, you horse just shat on the ground, please take it and your white-knighting somewhere else

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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I can’t help but shake my head at most of these comments. There was a time when we celebrated anecdotes like this here on Hacker News. I’ve seen this story circulated many times but this is the first time I’ve seen this sort of reaction. These aren’t rose colored glasses, anyone can look up threads of old in which we cheered such defiance toward authority. People are frothing to frame this story with 2023 glasses and…

Hacking was aggressively criminalized. We lost Aaron Swartz. There are real threats to people with curiosity these days, and that seems to be an intentional result of the laws and enforcement in the US.

> There are real threats to people with curiosity these days

Don't try to be too curious then, or you will be prosecuted.

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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No less irresponsible than charging a man with a felony over an obvious joke.

How is using fake IDs to board airplanes a joke? Only because we are mostly sure this particular man is an innocent manchild, but how exactly does that generalize?

It's making a joke out of procedure to check ID that doesn't serve any purpose (even if it might be funny only to prankster) when even obvious fakes pass without problem.

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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> [The Secret Service agent] asked my for some picture ID. I have some fake photo ID's that a friend made for me years before, when we could make realistic photo ID's from our computers. Almost nobody else could do this because printers weren't good enough. But I had an expensive early generation dye sublimation printer and made some fake ID's for fun. I had one favorite fake ID that I'd used for almost every airplan…

He could also just be lying about the story.

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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It was the mid 80's, well before 9-11. Airport security was far more lax. Everything was far more lax. There was no way to easily verify ID anyway.

Exactly this. As late as the 2001 I could cross into the US from Canada with as little as my birth certificate, which I often did. That was just a cotton blended paper with tattered edges with some writing, and the crest of my province printed on it. There wasn’t even a photo on it! It was closer to writing, ‘I’m daniel plz let me in’ on a napkin, than it is to my passport of today with its photo, barcode, and RFID c…

> There wasn’t even a photo on it!

I mean, picture of a baby isn't exactly useful...

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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post #36

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Isn't it pretty irresponsible to commit a felony while you have a daughter and wife to take care of? I find his nonchalant delivery quite jarring. I don't understand what's going through his head here.

I can’t help but shake my head at most of these comments. There was a time when we celebrated anecdotes like this here on Hacker News. I’ve seen this story circulated many times but this is the first time I’ve seen this sort of reaction. These aren’t rose colored glasses, anyone can look up threads of old in which we cheered such defiance toward authority. People are frothing to frame this story with 2023 glasses and…

We’ve moved past that naivety to a place of higher social consciousness

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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post #250

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When an entire population is far more homogeneous than most modern Western states, the heightened social trust and cohesion permits this kind of harmless fun (among many other benefits). It's one of those sacrifices made to accommodate diversity which is almost impossible to quantify and existentially unsettling to even try.

Clearly you haven't read or been in any post-soviet country, near perfect "ethnical cohesion", doesn't stop crime or increase trust in any way. Frankly that's arrogant and narrow-minded view; homogenous culture might cause less conflicts and problems when the culture itself is one promoting that in the first place

Hahaha. Great point.

The U.S. is one of the higher-trust societies, socially, while also being extremely racially diverse.

It sounds like pro-social culture and your people being rich probably matter more than race, and Eastern Europe has a critical deficit in both of those. :p

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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If it has his correct details is it actually a fake ID?

It’s only fake if it’s imitating an ID issued by some other organization.

If I print a student ID issued by a non-existant university, is it a fake ID?

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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How is using fake IDs to board airplanes a joke? Only because we are mostly sure this particular man is an innocent manchild, but how exactly does that generalize?

Within-country airplane boarding shouldn't need ID. The security theatre procedures are the joke here. Showing fake IDs is harmless.

In much of Europe that's still the case. You can use an electronic or home-printed boarding pass and travel within the Schegen Zone and not be checked otherwise.

I've never tried to buy a ticket with false details though.

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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It’s more that he is affluent. Try to imagine white trash pulling this stunt and it wouldn’t go well either.

I’m assuming you don’t know this: white trash is a slur. As in, deeply offensive to some people.

It is a derogatory term and I have no idea why people are downvoting that sentiment. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_trash
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