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Orion Browser

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Re: Orion Browser

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Post by pantulis »

Terretta wrote: post #84
imbnwa wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

macOS-native vertical tabs were a big win for me too, and like yourself, its WebExtensions API is a win over Safari OOTB but there are Chrome extensions I really rely on that don't work, some as a result of the differences between Webkit and Blink themselves, so I find myself drawn to Arc browser where I get, IMO, a much more robust UI where vertical tabs are the default and the command palette in place of an address…

To be fair, Safari also has MacOS-native vertical tabs, in tab groups, that sync group state across the full ecosystem, and do the "in window switching" when you change groups. // I pay for Kagi, and use Orion for certain extensions.

Yes, it is fairly straightforward and easy enough to use with the Tab Group switcher in the menu, but sadly it does not allow you to nest tabs in a tree manner (probably it was decided it was a power user feature).

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Post by _cenw »

dcow wrote: post #92
ziml77 wrote: post #53

The native tree-style tabs in Orion (yes, actual tree-style, not just vertical) are awesome. And on my M1 MBP Orion handily beats Firefox in power efficiency. Being able to install Chrome extensions, despite being a Webkit based browser, makes it better than Safari (where people have to pay the Apple Tax to make extensions for it). Really there's only 2 issues I have with Orion: 1. It's not available outside of the A…

Why won’t 1Password whitelist it?

They are a bit vague, but it usually comes down to "we don't want to manually handle it every time a new tiny browser comes by". Plenty of staff responses in here:

https://1password.community/discussion/124112/support-for-or...

Re: Orion Browser

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Post by _andrei_ »

jonathankoren wrote: post #71

“Built on Webkit” At least it’s not Chromium. We don’t need Big G dictating the web.

For me, "At least it's not Webkit" sounds more like something one would say.

There are horrible bugs in Webkit that have not been solved for more than 8 years. Developers that had to build something complex on the web, with lots of custom interaction, animations, etc. learned to hate Webkit with passion (and Safari, and the worst of the worst - Safari on iOS).

The Webkit team focuses on implementing new standards instead of trying get the engine to at least be decent when compared with the alternatives.

It does work ok for most things, and it uses less energy, but it's objectively the worst mainstream browser engine nowadays.

Re: Orion Browser

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Post by JanisErdmanis »

Orion does look like a viable alternative to Safari. I like those simple things like typing passwords with a fingerprint and swiping left is animated, much like in Safari. Tab groups would be nice.

The ability to use both Chrome and Firefox extensions is mindblowing. An inbuilt adblocker is good. The profiles look amazing to tab groups. I am very positive this will make my default browser.

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Post by neodymiumphish »

akvadrako wrote: post #114
Aeolun wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kagi seems really expensive? They say 240 searches a month costs them $3. But I don’t see how that works. You can run a c5.18xlarge instance for a full hour for that price, and it seems unlikely every search takes 15 seconds of CPU time on all 72 cpus. Of course they may need multiple instances to search in parallel, but the math per user/search would remain the same. It’s still nice that someone is making paid searc…

They pay for search APIs. I would say it's very cheap – $10/month for something I use hours a day comes out to a few cents an hour. Even if I was making minimum wage and it only increased my productivity 1% it would be worth it.

Neeva costs $5/month and has an AI implementation. They're also using APIs from other scrapers and engines. How can they do it at half the cost to customers (with free accounts as well)?

Re: Orion Browser

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Post by pxoe »

karmakaze wrote: post #49
COGlory wrote: post #35

I pay for Kagi. I'd also pay for Orion if it were on Linux. It doesn't even need to be good, I'd still pay for it.

For something as important as a web browser or operating system, I'd want it to be open source. In the FAQ it does say that they're opensourcing components and plan to opensource the browser eventually. This is all good. Long term though, I'd want it also to run on opensource operating systems. It doesn't exactly make sense to have an opensource browser on a closed source operating system. I use Firefox on macOS (+ L…

there's min browser. https://github.com/minbrowser/min it's cross-platform and open source.

Re: Orion Browser

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Post by oblib »

I downloaded this yesterday after seeing this post and, wow!

It will take me awhile to go through all the tools and features for developers but I'm pretty sure I'll be using this as my goto browser for testing my work.

Shout out to napolux for sharing this here!

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