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5G is so much better than LTE here in Australia, the difference in latency alone is really great.
We kinda need it tho to help partially make up for the absolutely abysmal copper NBN.
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WiFi is a 'simple' system designed for a few, static devices. Cellular systems are designed for many more devices and, crucially, full mobility. These are orders of magnitude more complex than WiFi. Then, specifically 5G is about increasing capacity (number of devices), reducing delays, and stringent reliability.
There's nothing within the 5G spec itself that commands that every single cell site needs to be a massive MIMO supporting 1000s of users at once. Making a micro cell supporting just a family home is enough, then something a bit higher for small businesses supporting 10-100 users, then the likes of Starbucks can deploy bigger ones and finally the Sports stadiums and Corporate offices gets the really high end stuff. Co…
OK, I will bite. Comparing 5G vs 4G as Technology is completely different to 5G vs 4G in real world implementation. That is a bit like asking if Core i9 is faster than Core i7 without knowing the clock speed, core count, cache and power budget. Or for Software developers comparing Python vs Ruby without knowing the code and VM, JIT or not Most 5G network around the world are deployed in higher frequency spectrum. Hen…
> Or for Software developers comparing Python vs Ruby without knowing the code and VM, JIT or not As far as consumers are concerned we are comparing Python 2 and Python 3
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It working great and people actually wanting to use it are two different things. In my experience people go to sports events to experience the atmosphere and enjoy themselves while having a beer, not to look into every minute detail of what's happening.
Exactly... the most fanatical football nuts I know are the ones watching the game on TV with the different angles and the slow-motions and the replays... the people going to the game are very tribal, they love painting their faces and shouting [CITY NAME] and they do genuinely get very happy when [TEAM] wins but they aren't the ones talking about the 0-technique of the defensive lineman and so on.
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> Telcos desperately need a killer app or use case that drives 5G adoption. They haven't got one. * Self driving cars? No. * Internet of Things? No. * Metaverse? No. * Remote surgical operations? You gotta be kidding. Everyone in a big stadium can watch the show on their phones, though. If someone was willing to pay for the hundreds of tiny cell sites required.
I worked on a team that prototyped the “watch the game on your phone at the game” using WiFi. Nobody used it. That isn’t going to be the killer app either.
5G is so much better than LTE here in Australia, the difference in latency alone is really great.
Australian mobile data reception and speed is insane. Living in the UK really makes me appreciate how reliable and fast our 4g and 5g is. Part of that is not having impenetrable old stone buildings, but even outdoors the difference is huge. We kinda need it tho to help partially make up for the absolutely abysmal copper NBN.
It took me 9 years living in Melbourne before I could get (at any cost) almost he same speed internet I had back in NZ 10 years earlier. Australian internet and politics are both very disappointing.
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I live in a poured concrete house built in 1950s Ireland. My 2.4Ghz doorbell struggles to speak to an AP about 1 meter away from it through the external wall. I just did a 5G speedtest from my bed and got 250Mbps.
It's probably coming through your window, not the walls. Try it from a bathroom.
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> If someone was willing to pay for the hundreds of tiny cell sites required. We are already doing that, it's called WiFi. 5G SA is nothing but a souped up WiFi signal, and it should be treated as such and not how we have been treating 4G up until this point. Telcos need to change their business model otherwise the tech giants might end up eating their lunch
The tech giants spy on us to sell advertising inside of their products. If Verizon starts listening into my calls to sell me products I would switch to any carrier who wasn’t doing that.
Source: PII data request of my own Verizon account, containing detailed demographic data, intent/interest data, and IP addresses of websites I had visited.
Edit: Anyone interested in doing the same, here's the link: https://www.verizon.com/support/download-and-view-vpd-file/
Having the 5G logo on your phone doesnt necessarily mean your phone is speaking 5G. It's...complicated. - Most US operators do not have ubiquitous 5G radio coverage, so, they do what is called 5G NSA where your traffic ultimately ends up veing processed by the 4G core infrastructure that they have. Which is already overloaded and a bit creaky. - Some operators can do real 5G, "5G SA", where the whole flow end to end…
https://imgur.com/gallery/BFTTMRS
Measurement was taken a decent distance from the city in the suburbs.