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Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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Post by KyeRussell »

ramraj07 wrote: post #46
Asooka wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No less irresponsible than charging a man with a felony over an obvious joke.

How is using fake IDs to board airplanes a joke? Only because we are mostly sure this particular man is an innocent manchild, but how exactly does that generalize?

You only think that it’s not a joke because over 20 years ago some people committed the single most successful act of terrorism in recent history. Was Woz meant to look into the future and be mindful of your presumably American sensitivities?

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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Post by rwalle »

ThunderSizzle wrote: post #86
papito wrote: post #57

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I dont know anyone that thinks this. Most dare devils do it for the thrill, and don't really think past the moment. And many of the extreme negative examples end in prison or death or similar, regardless of race.

"I don't know anyone..."

Well, maybe, ask people you know if they would dare do the same thing. You may then see that there is a difference in the way people respond to the police depending on the race.

Sorry but your own life experience and how you think about this incident really do not apply to others.

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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Post by OJFord »

dsomers wrote: post #82
crispyambulance wrote: post #50

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It was the mid 80's, well before 9-11. Airport security was far more lax. Everything was far more lax. There was no way to easily verify ID anyway.

Exactly this. As late as the 2001 I could cross into the US from Canada with as little as my birth certificate, which I often did. That was just a cotton blended paper with tattered edges with some writing, and the crest of my province printed on it. There wasn’t even a photo on it! It was closer to writing, ‘I’m daniel plz let me in’ on a napkin, than it is to my passport of today with its photo, barcode, and RFID c…

As little as a birth certificate?

You can still cross EU borders with just a driving licence, or government issued ID where they have them.

(In practice the vast majority using planes and boats at least probably do take a passport, I always did from the UK, but in theory you don't need one, so if you weren't planning to go elsewhere you wouldn't even need to get a passport.)

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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Post by akerl_ »

gandalfian wrote: post #54
dist1ll wrote: post #36

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Isn't it pretty irresponsible to commit a felony while you have a daughter and wife to take care of? I find his nonchalant delivery quite jarring. I don't understand what's going through his head here.

If it has his correct details is it actually a fake ID?

Yes.

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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Post by dxdm »

gandalfian wrote: post #54
dist1ll wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't it pretty irresponsible to commit a felony while you have a daughter and wife to take care of? I find his nonchalant delivery quite jarring. I don't understand what's going through his head here.

If it has his correct details is it actually a fake ID?

Yes.

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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Post by incone123 »

michaelt wrote: post #40
incone123 wrote: post #12

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If this isn't something tellers see quite regularly, then what do other cruise passengers do? I asked for a lot of £5 (smallest denomination note in UK) at the bank once because I was going to a music festival (before mobile card payment was routine). They asked me casually why I wanted them and I explained. Seems to be a Know Your Customer thing.

My bank tells me it's to help protect vulnerable customers - for example, if you want £2000 cash to pay some builders, they'll ask whether the builders have started work yet. Although who knows if that's the whole reason?

That's true for large amounts and there are a lot of scams so it makes sense. But this is around small denominations - I was only getting a few hundred GBP in £5s for a festival.

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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Post by slackfan »

FearlessNebula wrote: post #109
ramraj07 wrote: post #43

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Not to mention not looking like a minority was a fairly strong shield back then and even is today.

It’s more that he is affluent. Try to imagine white trash pulling this stunt and it wouldn’t go well either.

As proud trailer trash -- fucking with the feds is a time honoured tradition, and we have done similar and gotten away with more.

Please stop being so condescending.

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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Post by OJFord »

blowski wrote: post #78
MrPatan wrote: post #53

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Do you have to show your papers when you board a bus?

I used to have to show a photocard with my travel pass. It had a picture of a lemming on it and yet it was never rejected.

You didn't have to do that though, you presumably could've paid cash or card or whatever for a single ticket? The photo I assume was just to stop people sharing a pass.

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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Post by doctor_eval »

O__________O wrote: post #107
xpe wrote: post #73

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Woz didn't lie according to his account. Technically, he gave a fake ID, but not a fake drivers license. I say this b/c DL's don't show occupation. My understanding is that it had his correct name. So I don't see a lie that most prosecutors would care about given the whole situation. Not to mention that it is not a good look for a secret service agent to not know the details of the actual currency he is tasked to pro…

> makes or uses any false writing or document knowing the same to contain any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or entry; https://codes.findlaw.com/us/title-18-crimes-and-criminal-pr...

But was it materially false? im not sure his fake occupation was at all relevant, and since the document identified Woz, I suspect it was materially true.

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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Post by tankenmate »

dist1ll wrote: post #36
yreg wrote: post #3

> [The Secret Service agent] asked my for some picture ID. I have some fake photo ID's that a friend made for me years before, when we could make realistic photo ID's from our computers. Almost nobody else could do this because printers weren't good enough. But I had an expensive early generation dye sublimation printer and made some fake ID's for fun. I had one favorite fake ID that I'd used for almost every airplan…

Isn't it pretty irresponsible to commit a felony while you have a daughter and wife to take care of? I find his nonchalant delivery quite jarring. I don't understand what's going through his head here.

To be convicted the prosecution needs to prove mens rea (providing a fake ID isn't strict liability), his thinking of why he chose to do this would make prosecution a fair bit harder (but obviously not impossible).
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