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Testing Noctua’s NH-P1 with Ryzen 7700x and Intel’s i9-13900K

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Re: Testing Noctua’s NH-P1 with Ryzen 7700x and Intel’s i9-13900K

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Post by Trellmor »

Normal_gaussian wrote: post #5

Is there a good aggregation of cooler performance somewhere? I've recently completed a build for the first time in a decade and was pleasantly surprised by tools like PC Part Picker, the assembly was a breeze (many micro improvements by everyone), and everything 'just worked'. Literally the only question I was out cold for was which cooler is good enough? With some coolers rivaling RAM costs and cases having fixings…

While not a replacement for independent reviews, Noctua provides compatibility lists with rough thermal headroom indicators[0].

They also have compatibility list for motherboards, cases and RAM to see if it will physically fit[1].

[0]https://ncc.noctua.at/cpus

[1]https://ncc.noctua.at/

Re: Testing Noctua’s NH-P1 with Ryzen 7700x and Intel’s i9-13900K

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Post by Trellmor »

neilv wrote: post #10

This cooler itself doesn't have a fan, but it looks like the test system has at least 4 large case fans, including 2 directly inline with the cooler. And sounds from the text like the fans were spinning. I love Noctua, but a totally fanless system would be a more interesting test.

Gamers Nexus have a video testing the NH-P1 fanless[0]. Without fans it wont handle as much and you are probably limited to about 65W TDP CPUs.

As a matter of fact, Noctua has a compatibility guide where they list the expected performance w/ and w/o a fan[1].

[0]https://youtu.be/N8EjMwS2ut0

[1]https://ncc.noctua.at/coolers/NH-P1-68/cpu/all/AM4

Re: Testing Noctua’s NH-P1 with Ryzen 7700x and Intel’s i9-13900K

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Post by chx »

Very interesting. The pioneering cooler in this space was the Scythe Ninja which has been shipping with fans for a while now so I am not sure how well it fares in passive mode. Deepcool has the GAMMAXX S40 and the REDHAT both of which mentions passive cooling but it ships with fans. NoFan IMO is gone, Prolimatech doesn't even have AM4 much less AM5 brackets for the Megahalem... Is the space deserted save for this NH-P1??

Re: Testing Noctua’s NH-P1 with Ryzen 7700x and Intel’s i9-13900K

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Post by mrlucax »

emn13 wrote: post #8
Normal_gaussian wrote: post #5

Is there a good aggregation of cooler performance somewhere? I've recently completed a build for the first time in a decade and was pleasantly surprised by tools like PC Part Picker, the assembly was a breeze (many micro improvements by everyone), and everything 'just worked'. Literally the only question I was out cold for was which cooler is good enough? With some coolers rivaling RAM costs and cases having fixings…

Yeah, the ad-funded model and how that supports reviewers seems to have damaged well structured and comprehensive independent review sites. It's all in videos or really low-effort stuff nowadays, and that makes it hard to draw conclusions without significant effort - and even then, considerable risk of drawing the wrong conclusions. I think this affects far more than just coolers; it's simply that for categories that…

The Gamer Nexus reviews are independent and extremely methodical and honest. It's by far the best PC components reviewer on YouTube right now.

Re: Testing Noctua’s NH-P1 with Ryzen 7700x and Intel’s i9-13900K

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Post by wincy »

Normal_gaussian wrote: post #5

Is there a good aggregation of cooler performance somewhere? I've recently completed a build for the first time in a decade and was pleasantly surprised by tools like PC Part Picker, the assembly was a breeze (many micro improvements by everyone), and everything 'just worked'. Literally the only question I was out cold for was which cooler is good enough? With some coolers rivaling RAM costs and cases having fixings…

The ice giant thermosiphon seems to be the state of the art right now from what I’ve seen. To the point where that’s being used by the world’s top overclocker instead of water cooling loops.

If I were building a system I’d just slap one of those in, buy some Noctuas for quieter fan operation and ignore it, and let the CPU turbo to its hearts content.

Edit: link https://www.icegiantcooling.com/

Re: Testing Noctua’s NH-P1 with Ryzen 7700x and Intel’s i9-13900K

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Post by ricardobeat »

neilv wrote: post #10

This cooler itself doesn't have a fan, but it looks like the test system has at least 4 large case fans, including 2 directly inline with the cooler. And sounds from the text like the fans were spinning. I love Noctua, but a totally fanless system would be a more interesting test.

The case fans are larger and spin much more slowly, plus they are running them at 35% speed. This should be practically silent compared to any CPU fan.

Re: Testing Noctua’s NH-P1 with Ryzen 7700x and Intel’s i9-13900K

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Post by newsclues »

mrlucax wrote: post #16
emn13 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, the ad-funded model and how that supports reviewers seems to have damaged well structured and comprehensive independent review sites. It's all in videos or really low-effort stuff nowadays, and that makes it hard to draw conclusions without significant effort - and even then, considerable risk of drawing the wrong conclusions. I think this affects far more than just coolers; it's simply that for categories that…

The Gamer Nexus reviews are independent and extremely methodical and honest. It's by far the best PC components reviewer on YouTube right now.

“It's all in videos or really low-effort stuff nowadays,”

GN doesn’t really update their website with written reviews.

Re: Testing Noctua’s NH-P1 with Ryzen 7700x and Intel’s i9-13900K

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Post by pshirshov »

chx wrote: post #14

Very interesting. The pioneering cooler in this space was the Scythe Ninja which has been shipping with fans for a while now so I am not sure how well it fares in passive mode. Deepcool has the GAMMAXX S40 and the REDHAT both of which mentions passive cooling but it ships with fans. NoFan IMO is gone, Prolimatech doesn't even have AM4 much less AM5 brackets for the Megahalem... Is the space deserted save for this NH-…

There was also Thermaltake Sonic Tower, I've used it more than 10 years ago, it was a very nice cooler.
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