Currently doctor questionarre has "do you smoke?" yes/no. If you vape or using stuff like iqos, it's "no". Available answers should expand from boolean to list vaping/vaporizing products. Otherwise you'll see from analisis that non-smokers have problems, what if ie. iqos users are exposing themselves to 5x more nicotine or something else is happening that is problematic?
Heart attacks on rise for 25-44 age group
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Re: Heart attacks on rise for 25-44 age group
#52Does anyone have link to the full text? (can't access from my institution) I ask because they seem to point to covid but there are lots of other factors that need to be considered that are quite obviously causal. For example obesity is on the rise[0], including a ~5% between 1999 and 2019. I think it would be unsurprising to anyone that obesity increased in a period where we all shifted to online and that regular exe…
Obesity is also a risk factor for severe COVID cases, so the two might even be entangled.
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#53For those who are desperate to draw a link between vaccines and heart attacks, this article essentially says the opposite of that. While the paper itself doesn't differentiate between vaccinated and unvaccinated populations, it does contain a graph showing a state-by-state breakdown of acute myocardial infarction (AMI)-associated deaths: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/cms/asset/c0aed082-9f81-4a88... Dark purple is a…
It's difficult to draw conclusions because first graph is not the delta in deaths, just total deaths. and southern states have always had a high cardiovascular mortality. I guess the bigger question that I often have is why the rush to completely rule out vaccines? Whenever this discussion comes up, its either complete blame or zero blame. How about investigate it like any other factor with the help of proper data? A…
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#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
Considering older age groups tend to be more vaccinated than the 25-44 cohort and they haven’t seen as much of a rise as the 25-44 cohort it’s pretty clear it’s Covid and/or stressors related to the pandemic. The fact that you’re even considering the vaccine when we’ve been hit by a pandemic that is known to devastate organs shows that the anti-vaxxers have been unfortunately effective in their messaging.
Wouldn't a properly controlled study consist of comparing 25-44 adults who have not been vaccinated vs. an identical group (as much as that's possible) who have been?
Sure, go ahead and pay for it.
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#55the older i get the more i think about mortality. God I hope I go quick, like <1ms response time to off. This link makes me feel woozy
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#56For those who are desperate to draw a link between vaccines and heart attacks, this article essentially says the opposite of that. While the paper itself doesn't differentiate between vaccinated and unvaccinated populations, it does contain a graph showing a state-by-state breakdown of acute myocardial infarction (AMI)-associated deaths: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/cms/asset/c0aed082-9f81-4a88... Dark purple is a…
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This is what confirmation bias looks like. You weren't looking for it before, and people weren't incentivized to sensationalize athletes' medical problems in the past.
Sudden cardiac problems tend to rear their heads when you're overexerting yourself, no matter how healthy you perceive yourself to be[1]. There's a reason gyms have defibrillators, it's because strenuous exercise increases your risks of sudden cardiac events.
Here's an article from 2012, titled "Why do sports stars collapse in action?", that examines the collapse of athletes while playing sports[2]:
> Professional sports players are generally in prime physical condition, especially with today’s advanced physiological, nutritional and medical knowledge.
> However, Fabrice Muamba is the latest in a growing list of athletes around the world who have suffered heart problems – seemingly out of nowhere.
Weird how this sudden trend goes all the way back to 2012.
[1] https://health.clevelandclinic.org/can-too-much-extreme-exer...
[2] https://www.cnn.com/2012/03/19/sport/health-muamba-heart-pro...
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#58For those who are desperate to draw a link between vaccines and heart attacks, this article essentially says the opposite of that. While the paper itself doesn't differentiate between vaccinated and unvaccinated populations, it does contain a graph showing a state-by-state breakdown of acute myocardial infarction (AMI)-associated deaths: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/cms/asset/c0aed082-9f81-4a88... Dark purple is a…
It's difficult to draw conclusions because first graph is not the delta in deaths, just total deaths. and southern states have always had a high cardiovascular mortality. I guess the bigger question that I often have is why the rush to completely rule out vaccines? Whenever this discussion comes up, its either complete blame or zero blame. How about investigate it like any other factor with the help of proper data? A…
>why the rush to rule them out?
Any fact that would lead to the conclusion that there was a deliberate campaign of organized malice by large groups of people especially in government agencies is false because the conclusion is always false. Also, obedience and compliance with government dictates is always rewarded. Any fact leading to the conclusion that that is not the case is always false.
The proper way to determine the truth is to determine first what are alway false conclusions and then rule out the facts that would lead to those conclusions regardless of the evidence.
/poe's law
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#59Thank you covid for making everyone lethargic
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#60For those who are desperate to draw a link between vaccines and heart attacks, this article essentially says the opposite of that. While the paper itself doesn't differentiate between vaccinated and unvaccinated populations, it does contain a graph showing a state-by-state breakdown of acute myocardial infarction (AMI)-associated deaths: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/cms/asset/c0aed082-9f81-4a88... Dark purple is a…
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You are suffering from confirmation bias regarding athletes and heart issues.
The rest of your comment is... completely insane? Rife with fallacy and delusion? Maybe someone can come up with a polite word.