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Considering older age groups tend to be more vaccinated than the 25-44 cohort and they haven’t seen as much of a rise as the 25-44 cohort it’s pretty clear it’s Covid and/or stressors related to the pandemic. The fact that you’re even considering the vaccine when we’ve been hit by a pandemic that is known to devastate organs shows that the anti-vaxxers have been unfortunately effective in their messaging.
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Considering older age groups tend to be more vaccinated than the 25-44 cohort and they haven’t seen as much of a rise as the 25-44 cohort it’s pretty clear it’s Covid and/or stressors related to the pandemic. The fact that you’re even considering the vaccine when we’ve been hit by a pandemic that is known to devastate organs shows that the anti-vaxxers have been unfortunately effective in their messaging.
Can't watch from my country, what's the tl;dw? In which population, and are there any reasons why?
> anyone infected with COVID is at higher risk for heart issues—including clots, inflammation, and arrhythmias—a risk that persists even in relatively healthy people long after the illness has passed...I went into it thinking that [the risk] was going to be most pronounced and evident in people who smoked a lot or had diabetes, heart disease, kidney disease, or some [other] risk factors. What we found is that even in people who did not have any heart problems start with, were athletic, did not have a high BMI, were not obese, did not smoke, did not have kidney disease or diabetes—even in people who were previously healthy and had no risk factors or problems with the heart—COVID-19 affected them in such a way that manifested the higher risk of heart problems than people who did not get COVID-19. (https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2022/covid-and-the-heart-it-spa...)
> The coronavirus may infect and damage the heart’s muscle tissue directly...Coronavirus infection also affects the inner surfaces of veins and arteries, which can cause blood vessel inflammation, damage to very small vessels and blood clots....As the virus causes inflammation and fluid to fill up the air sacs in the lungs, less oxygen can reach the bloodstream. The heart has to work harder to pump blood through the body, which can be dangerous in people with preexisting heart disease...Viral infections can cause cardiomyopathy, a heart muscle disorder that affects the heart’s ability to pump blood effectively (https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseas...)
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Considering older age groups tend to be more vaccinated than the 25-44 cohort and they haven’t seen as much of a rise as the 25-44 cohort it’s pretty clear it’s Covid and/or stressors related to the pandemic. The fact that you’re even considering the vaccine when we’ve been hit by a pandemic that is known to devastate organs shows that the anti-vaxxers have been unfortunately effective in their messaging.
"We need the data about death of vaccinated vs non-vaccinated now [and the data about non-deaths of vaxxed/non-vaxxed]"
Or a more general:
"We need the data about death of vaccinated vs non-vaccinated now [as research without giving access to the data is not to be trusted, regardless of the field of science]"
I could also construe an argument how anti-vaxxers have been effective in polarizing your interpretation of an otherwise normal request.
Be tolerant of opinions you dislike, especially when they ask for data.
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Considering older age groups tend to be more vaccinated than the 25-44 cohort and they haven’t seen as much of a rise as the 25-44 cohort it’s pretty clear it’s Covid and/or stressors related to the pandemic. The fact that you’re even considering the vaccine when we’ve been hit by a pandemic that is known to devastate organs shows that the anti-vaxxers have been unfortunately effective in their messaging.
Why people are not willing to have an honest conversation about the implications of developing and rushing out a new vaccine to the entire world in less than 2 years is very confusing to me.
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Considering older age groups tend to be more vaccinated than the 25-44 cohort and they haven’t seen as much of a rise as the 25-44 cohort it’s pretty clear it’s Covid and/or stressors related to the pandemic. The fact that you’re even considering the vaccine when we’ve been hit by a pandemic that is known to devastate organs shows that the anti-vaxxers have been unfortunately effective in their messaging.
My trust in the medical system is at the lowest it’s ever been. I saw how they operate. Health is a result only when it align with financial interest.
Yes it’s possible the spike protein (from the virus) is causing this. The data can help show were it come from.
Either way without the data we are blind. Time will tell anyway.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/cms/asset/c0aed082-9f81-4a88...
Dark purple is a higher rate of death, light blue is lower.
A state-by-state graph of vaccination percentage is available here:
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/12/16/us/covid-19-vacci...
These graphs would indicate that the states with the lowest vaccination rates have the highest AMI mortality rates.
I ask because they seem to point to covid but there are lots of other factors that need to be considered that are quite obviously causal. For example obesity is on the rise[0], including a ~5% between 1999 and 2019. I think it would be unsurprising to anyone that obesity increased in a period where we all shifted to online and that regular exercise decreased. Especially true for younger people who typically are more active than the other groups (which could correlate to the difference in age groups). Stress is another big factor and I think even excluding the pandemic stress in our country is on the rise and the pandemic made it way worse.
There's obviously many more factors like this and since I can't see if the paper attempts to account for these I'm asking if someone else can answer this. But if these are not answered (as the link suggests) this is quite reckless to just state that a temporal correlation equates to the virus being a causal factor and ironically may increase said risk through the aforementioned factors.
[0] https://www.tfah.org/report-details/state-of-obesity-2022/
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Important rise, we don’t know why(job loss? stress?, covid?), we don’t talk about mRNA vaccines.
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And so your tired argument about pharmaceutical companies and elections is irrelevant for many of us.
