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Re: Orion Browser

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It’s okay. I like the vertical tabs. Sadly, extensions are buggy and I can’t get Vue Dev Tools to run, which is needed for work. Kagi search is really nice though. Switched to usit exclusively.

macOS-native vertical tabs were a big win for me too, and like yourself, its WebExtensions API is a win over Safari OOTB but there are Chrome extensions I really rely on that don't work, some as a result of the differences between Webkit and Blink themselves, so I find myself drawn to Arc browser where I get, IMO, a much more robust UI where vertical tabs are the default and the command palette in place of an address…

What is this "in-place window switching" feature you mentioned?

Re: Orion Browser

#22
post #8

For people who want to compare privacy(tracking) features of browsers, you can look it up here: https://privacytests.org/ That is not my website I found about it here on HN. I wonder how Orion compares to other browsers.

I think that site does not give adequate context to understand the results. Making privacy a check/no-check mark on things that 99.9% of people do not understand does not improve privacy and there are lots of nuances that are not communicated. Even people who do understand the context and platform do not understand what some parts of it means.

Re: Orion Browser

#23
I used Onion for a while, but moved back to Safari. Too many weird issues with playing video, and autofill with tons of contacts (4-5k?). Miss the build in ad blocking, and that it's chrome is thinner, and picture-in-picture without some random extension.

Re: Orion Browser

#24
post #8

For people who want to compare privacy(tracking) features of browsers, you can look it up here: https://privacytests.org/ That is not my website I found about it here on HN. I wonder how Orion compares to other browsers.

> Several months after first publishing the website, I became an employee of Brave

Fair disclosure from the "About" page, for anyone reading it and noticing Brave's subtly-aligned checkmarks. I'm willing to assume goodwill in a lot of places, but if this was a Firefox or Chrome employee I'd be saying the same thing.

Re: Orion Browser

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It's really amazing to think that "zero telemetry" is how one differentiates from Firefox these days.

Until MacOS lets you disable OCSP, I don't think a Mac-native browser can be zero-telemetry.

I'd call that OS telemetry as opposed to browser/application telemetry.

Re: Orion Browser

#26

Some feedback: 1. The download button doesn't work on Pale Moon / WhiteStar browser (v32.0.0) - clicking it does nothing. Perhaps it is a bug or some settings I enabled. But it should be a no-brainer that a Browser company design a site that works fine in all browsers so that others can download and switch to it easily! 2. Orion is still very buggy and keeps freezing occasionally. Cannot use it as a daily driver. 3.…

> I still recommend it to others but you guys need to produce a stable version soon.

This is a bit uncharitable - the browser is currently in beta.

Re: Orion Browser

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It's really amazing to think that "zero telemetry" is how one differentiates from Firefox these days.

Until MacOS lets you disable OCSP, I don't think a Mac-native browser can be zero-telemetry.

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Re: Orion Browser

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Until MacOS lets you disable OCSP, I don't think a Mac-native browser can be zero-telemetry.

I'd call that OS telemetry as opposed to browser/application telemetry.

Agreed, I'd be singing a different tune if Orion was available on other OSes.

Re: Orion Browser

#29
Who needs telemetry on the client when you're signed in with a paid account with your cc info lol.

Look, the product quality both for kagi and orion is average. If they want to compete as a privacy first product they must at least offer bitcoin payment and a legally binding clause about not logging IP addresses.

Re: Orion Browser

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve been slowly transitioning to Orion from Brave, and my only complaint is that Orion doesn’t handle mailto links correctly. Otherwise it’s great, and I like the mobile-desktop linkage. But I’ve slowed my transition lately, since Brave now offers vertical tabs if you set the flag. Would love to see true tree-style tabs, but even just vertical tabs makes me much less likely to switch away.

My situation is a bit different. I am on some kind of minimalism streak and started to rarely use tabs. It helps with focus and concentration. Would use a browser that enforces a no-tab policy. That's why I enjoy the focus mode so much.

You should check out min browser. it has a mode that prevents you from opening tabs. the design is also very very stripped back. no web extension support but has an adblock and bitwarden integration. it is unfortunately electron based though.
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