I've no inside knowledge on Google, so can't comment on the rationale for selecting those being let go. From the outside though, Google under Pichai increasingly looks like Microsoft under Ballmer in the late 2000s/early 2010s. Balmer was lauded for delivering good numbers from a dominant market position. That was fine - until it wasn't. Under his watch, Microsoft completely misjudged the internet and totally missed…
What is Google doing with its open source teams?
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step one: promote BSD and MIT licenses over more copyleft licenses such as GPL step two: profit from people willing to code for enterprises for free There has to be some reason that Google released PyTorch under BSD-3 by Meta and TensorFlow being released under Apache by Google.
You forgot step 1.5: make contributing to open-source an unwritten rule to getting a job in the industry Full disclosure: I got my current job before I had contributed anything to open source but I was asked a lot about it while applying to companies like it's expected that you work in your free time
No wonder Microsoft loves it.
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maps missing main roads is a (relatively) new "feature", you have to disable "prefer fuel-efficient routes" in your navigation settings to get sensical routes back
I’m no expert, but the “eco” routes don’t usually pass the smell test with me. I’ll be routed away from a thoroughfare that’s mostly flat/downhill to take a slightly-shorter side street that’s a steep incline. It just seems like half-baked greenwashing.
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maps missing main roads is a (relatively) new "feature", you have to disable "prefer fuel-efficient routes" in your navigation settings to get sensical routes back
I’m no expert, but the “eco” routes don’t usually pass the smell test with me. I’ll be routed away from a thoroughfare that’s mostly flat/downhill to take a slightly-shorter side street that’s a steep incline. It just seems like half-baked greenwashing.
Beats me how it was supposed to be a fuel saving road, other than doing that by virtue of destroying the car.
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AWS was built from the ground up on new infrastructure. There was no reuse of existing Amazon infrastructure except tooling. The whole "selling excess Q4 capacity" was a myth. https://www.acquired.fm/episodes/Amazon-web-services goes into it in great detail.
Miscapitalized url, should be [0]. However, the page is mostly metadata pointing at a 2 hour youtube video [1]. [0] https://www.acquired.fm/episodes/amazon-web-services [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APvj15_YCqk
It's a podcast first and foremost so the URL is still good for the direct links in various podcast players.
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I am aware of the history. The people responsible for writing and maintaining AWS Services are my coworkers…
> This is a completely false take. AWS was built from the ground up as separate infrastructure. Your comment above doesn’t seem to reflect that history, so I just wanted to make sure it was stated. AWS is also entirely built on Amazons builder tools like Apollo and Pipelines. So it’s really unfair to say “AWS was built from the ground up”
You wouldn't say something is built "on" Github.
Your continuous deployment and continuous delivery toolset isn't really what's running a multi-tenant cloud environment.
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This is a very weird take. Complaining that Google is monopolistic compared to Microsoft , of all companies.
Microsoft never came close to the level of intersecting monopolies Google has. Also, Google learned from Microsoft's mistake: It spread political money early and often to ensure it wouldn't get regulated nearly as quickly. Google aggressively paid off Democrats and Republicans alike, and despite bipartisan support for dealing with them, regulation work is still slow and ineffective. Now that's not to say Microsoft do…
Gmail, Google Drive, Google Maps, Google Chrome and Android either have direct competitors in other ecosystem or are open source. YouTube and search are the only ones I can think of without direct competition. And the competition for these products come from Apple and Microsoft who are more/just as entrenched in owning and growing their entire platform.
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This is 100% truth. Chris does rock! Unfathomable.
Alternative take: when I was there he was tyrannical and constantly blocking employees from open sourcing code developed on their own weekends and evenings, purely on a personal whim. People had to fight internal battles to get like little video games and stuff put up on github. You'd think head of OSPO would do whatever it took to get code open sourced but no far from it. Loads of grumbling about how he was just an…
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#179Earlier quoted context omitted.
Microsoft never came close to the level of intersecting monopolies Google has. Also, Google learned from Microsoft's mistake: It spread political money early and often to ensure it wouldn't get regulated nearly as quickly. Google aggressively paid off Democrats and Republicans alike, and despite bipartisan support for dealing with them, regulation work is still slow and ineffective. Now that's not to say Microsoft do…
I think the most monopolistic portion of Google besides search would be their hold on the ad tech industry (and even then you have other online giants Meta, Tiktok, Amazon, etc.) but I don't necessarily understand how you can say they have a monopoly on consumer products large enough to drive adoption of Android especially 15 years ago. Gmail, Google Drive, Google Maps, Google Chrome and Android either have direct co…
While ignoring all these huge monopolies, you claim search has no competition. Ironically, about a third of global search queries are serviced by Bing! I would go so far as to say the monopolies above are as powerful, or moreso, than Google's grip on search.
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The definition of algorithm is: > a process or set of rules to be followed in calculations or other problem-solving operations, especially by a computer. So yeah, I would hope that an algorithm was used. As opposed to what? "I like that guy more than the other guy". You seem to have the interpretation that some guy in finance wrote a script, it output some employee IDs, and then no one checked the output before layin…
First off, you know that "used an algorithm" in modern parlance means "was done by AI without human intervention". And based on that, absolutely I think Google did that. They run everything with data and statistics without humans. That's how they are so efficient. This is backed up by the fact that the managers who work there were simply told who they were losing and had no input into the process, and aren't even awa…