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Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining?

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Re: Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining?

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Little things I've noticed decay in my 40 plus years. I noticed credit card machines fail a lot more. Like 5 or 10 years ago credit card machines very rarely failed. Like you didn't even think about it. Now it's like a 25% chance the credit card machine I'm using will not work properly. This is not a new technology. No one lets you in in traffic anymore. you used to be able to put your blinker on and people would wav…

We added tap to pay, which has made things much quicker. My tap to pay was failing, but my card was old, I got it replaced and it works really well for me. I wonder how much internet connectivity is a factor here.

Certain vehicle models people do not want to let in front of them. Other people only let you merge when you send the correct messages in a very specific and intricate language communicated using your vehicle. I believe I have mastered this vehicle language and driver psychology, and I personally rarely have an issue merging. I also don't drive a big, new or expensive car, which probably helps.

People abusing the customer service model necessitated changes to customer service delivery in some companies. Abuse meaning any call not strictly required, or any longer than is strictly required, or asking for anything which is not reasonable to ask for given the price that is being paid.

I'm not presuming that any of the above apply to the above commenter or anyone else specifically, these are sort of general observations about society at large.

Further, I think many changes that people see as negative are also the inevitable consequences of the behavior that they also see as normal. For example, if a gigantic disparity in wealth/income is flaunted, people are surprised or upset when others are jealous of that wealth, though it should be an obvious outcome. There are many, many examples of this that could be given.

Re: Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining?

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Everything isn’t declining. Things were never great, by any modern definition. We just have an expectation that things are supposed to be easy breezy nowadays, and it turns out people are still people. Like, are you telling me that NYC landlords in the 90s weren’t trying to scam their tenants? That Philly police in the 80s were clean, efficient, trustworthy public servants? That there was less fraud in the .com boom,…

That was my reaction too. I've been around a while and none of this sounds like anything new. In fact, as a whole things have gotten better than they used to be.

Re: Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining?

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For one I strongly agree with your premise.

Imo, the reason things have gotten worse is finanicialization brought on by an extended period of low interest rates which causes societal surplus to flow to capital intsinve activities at the expense of everything else. To understand the reasons behind thisid recommend to look up Triffin's dilemma.

Basically it says, that any country that has a reserve currency, by nature of being forced into a structural trade deficit, will be forced to prioritize Financial activities over productive activities and that this force will increase the longer you hold the reserve currency.

Basically we used throwing the working class unfer rhe bus as a strategic lever at the end of ww2, but that didn't really start playing out until the 80s and has gotten much worse since then.

Now everyone is a nihilist because no one believes the game is fair anymore because we have structurally set things up so everyone in capital intensive activities gets obscene gains and everyone else fights for the scraps.

This has permeated beyond its first order effects where people embrace this system and actively encourage it without really understanding its causes.

Re: Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining?

#225
We live in a loop.

Remember that we still have unlimited source of food and water, that should be enough to be happy and optimistic, but probably we need a world war (again) to value what we have now.

Remember when we were free to work in whatever we wanted, do whatever we wanted, go out or not, travel or not, spend hours on the internet doing things like discussing on hacker news with the fridge full?... good times...

Re: Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining?

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My response is neither low quality nor trolling. There is absolutely a connection between the OPs attitude towards pyjamas and women being allowed to show their hair in Iran. It’s the same social mores except one opinion on how others dress is palatable to some and the other not. Which is particularly important given the on going struggle in Iran. Likewise the OP should consider how their opinion is reflected in that…

Dude, I have to agree with the OP here. Chill out.

> There is absolutely a connection between the OPs attitude towards pyjamas and women being allowed to show their hair in Iran

Except there isn't, because women's dress codes in areas under sharia law is enforced with violence and generally considered oppression; whereas pyjamas are an unenforced expectation.

Also:

> Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes.

> Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community.

> Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive.

Re: Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining?

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post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A society is made up of people. The way people act, dress, talk, or do anything else has a pretty direct impact on other people in that society. Unless your definition of society is an extremely disconnected one, comprised of alienated individuals that have no interaction with each other, yes, it does affect other people.

It only affects people who care about what other people wear, and those people shouldn’t have any sort of societal influence because that’s stupid. Name literally one reason that wearing pajamas in public will cause another person actual harm and I’ll take back this statement.

There are a lot of things that don’t cause “actual harm” (which is itself a very narrow and short-sighted metric to exclusively focus on) but are probably important to worry about. Clearly people care about “cultural things” even if you personally don’t care.

Re: Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining?

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I think you're way off base. It's called rosy retrospection, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosy_retrospection . As you already mentioned in your comments, you're judging the past disproportionately more positive that the present. If you really want to know if everything is declining, try measure it everyday for the next five years. For example, every day, rate your personal well being, track how (un)happy you are wit…

This is just personal but anytime I feel similar to the OP, I watch something by Hans Rosling [1] or Anna Rosling [2]. Although 10 and 5 years old respectively, I feel the general sentiment is still true - that human progress is slow, in the background and might be ebbing and flowing in your specific sub-population.

And when compared to the present, media narrative driven present its hard to see the improvements happening across the global population.

It helps me put stuff in perspective - of course mileage may var (and maybe it's just helping me delude myself into getting out a funk but it works!).

[1] Hans Rosling's 200 Countries, 200 Years, 4 Minutes - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbkSRLYSojo

[2] See how the rest of the world lives, organized by income - Anna Rosling Rönnlund https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4L130DkdOw

Re: Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining?

#230

> People are noisy as fuck and dont seem to give a shit. Seems like every night there's someone with loud as exhaust on "sportish" car ripping around the neihborhood. For months this guy would start up his loud car at 7am and no one care when I complained. > Police seem to not give a shit anymore. I've noticed what seems to be total lawlessness going on in my world. Folks stealing shit. People driving absurdly danger…

There's zero need to be judgemental about people's choice of clothing. Also, I don't think you understand what antisocial typically means, And there's no need to be judgemental about that either.

This is actually part of the problem - making shallow jabs on the internet to feel superior is avoidant compared to an actual confrontation; where you have no choice but to reflect on how your views may not apply to all situations.

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