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>being a grown-ass adult in pajamas out in public I'm with you about all the other things but people wearing whatever clothes they want to affects you in literally no way shape or form.
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Like, are you telling me that NYC landlords in the 90s weren’t trying to scam their tenants? That Philly police in the 80s were clean, efficient, trustworthy public servants? That there was less fraud in the .com boom, or before the Great Recession, then now with AI-SaaSchain nonsense?
I used to go to a burger place where the cashier would just tell me to fuck off if I ordered too slow. I can’t imagine trying to tell that dude he forgot _napkins_ in my bag.
I totally get the urge to rant too. People suck. But don’t lose hope! Because people always sucked, and it’s nothing new.
If we listen to our less privileged friends and neighbors, we hear _very_ clearly that the police have never given a shit. Rape and sexual assault have been rampant throughout much of US history and rarely taken seriously. Organized crime has often been allowed to be an ally rather than a target of investigation. Lynchings have gone uninvestigated.
The concept of police is just silly from first principles. Expecting that this mechanism will give a boost in your quality of life is wishful at best, bigoted at worst.
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A society is made up of people. The way people act, dress, talk, or do anything else has a pretty direct impact on other people in that society. Unless your definition of society is an extremely disconnected one, comprised of alienated individuals that have no interaction with each other, yes, it does affect other people.
Maybe I have something to learn, but what load-bearing social foundation would public pajama-wearing endanger?
To be honest, if you don't find this obviously true, I'm not sure any argument is going to convince you. I'll also add that in many countries outside of America, it is just the default to care about your appearance when in public.
> People are noisy as fuck and dont seem to give a shit. Seems like every night there's someone with loud as exhaust on "sportish" car ripping around the neihborhood. For months this guy would start up his loud car at 7am and no one care when I complained. > Police seem to not give a shit anymore. I've noticed what seems to be total lawlessness going on in my world. Folks stealing shit. People driving absurdly danger…
>being a grown-ass adult in pajamas out in public I'm with you about all the other things but people wearing whatever clothes they want to affects you in literally no way shape or form.
I think we're on the verge/in the middle of a stagnating/shrinking pie. When we're not growing in population and wealth things get dark as people chase zero-sum short term gains at the expense of others. Distrust runs rampant, people turn to the extraction of their peers vs expansion with their new friends. It will get better. Edit: Think bigger than the extractors!
To add to this - the car guy might think he has something to prove by blaring his engine at 7am: "I'm going to show them all" or something. An alternative thought is "I'm not going to do that because I don't want to upset potential friends/future relationships that will benefit me" Likewise, it sounds like you're upset at all of these people and would like to just be left alone An alternative thought is "Look at all…
Little things I've noticed decay in my 40 plus years. I noticed credit card machines fail a lot more. Like 5 or 10 years ago credit card machines very rarely failed. Like you didn't even think about it. Now it's like a 25% chance the credit card machine I'm using will not work properly. This is not a new technology. No one lets you in in traffic anymore. you used to be able to put your blinker on and people would wav…
Companies have to continually increase their revenue or profits out of fear of their competitors becoming larger and taking over the market. The internet has allowed almost everything in physical space to become commoditized. You also have a society that does not appreciate quality. Combining all this together I don't see how things don't keep getting worse.
This really resonates with my experience as well. But I can't tell if its society at large that appreciates quality less, or that the relative purchasing power of recent generations has decreased so much that your average-Joe no longer has a say in whether they can get a quality purchase or not. Or perhaps the issue is planned obsoletion. Taking a page from appliance manufacturers these days, literally all the major manufacturers appear to have planned obsolecscence built into their appliances these days. Contrasted with the 45 yo Maytag refrigerator in my garage still running as well as the day it was purchased.
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-- i live in Seoul - agree with the post - how does that square with your comment? ---
I live in Warsaw, Poland and don't agree with the post. How does that square with your comment? but I'm sure I could find a person who does
One reason I don't agree is that I try not to say "good" or "bad" when thinking about big, systemic things like that. It's more useful to describe the way things have changed. I'm not talking about moral relativism, I'm talking about inputs and outputs: by looking at what has changed, you can sometimes trace it back to a cause, and then try to figure out how to change it again. But just saying things have gotten worse seems a capitulation to inevitable forces outside anyone's control. Like an apple, rotting, rather than a boat with a hole in it: You can fix the boat if you find the hole.
Anyway, I think it's an extremely complicated question. I'm probably a bit more conservative than a lot of HN. My kneejerk reaction to many things is that, yeah, people suck more now. But, that's a dangerously convenient intuition which should be examined very carefully — like almost everything else in life.