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Apple: The only big tech giant going against the job cuts tide

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Re: Apple: The only big tech giant going against the job cuts tide

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> Why wouldn't they want to own a great OS full-stack? It's part of their bread & butter. It's not their bread and butter. Their bread and butter is web advertisement. 80-90% of all money they make comes from web advertisement. Someone in the company said "we need vertical integration like Apple has and we don't like Android", and for a while they managed to run with it. Now they lost the internal power struggle. Oh…

Android is a hugely important piece to Google. It’s pretty clearly the case for a wide variety of reasons, some of which is because they want to control the browser/app experience on mobile as much as Desktop in order to fuel those ads. Android itself of course makes billions alone, which is enough to justify Fuschia. They need a better setup to compete with Apple specifically on decoupling the OS from the drivers fo…

> Android itself of course makes billions alone, which is enough to justify Fuschia.

Ads are 80% of Google's revenue. Literally nothing else is Google's bread an butter. There's even speculation that Google makes more money from the search deal with Apple than from the entire Android ecosystem.

Android is a vehicle for Google's ads, and suffers from the company's rollercoaster of "interested/not interested" over the years.

Fuchsia by this time is just a 6-year-old money sink with no revenue story.

Re: Apple: The only big tech giant going against the job cuts tide

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Could it be that Apple is the only one amongst those that is more of a hardware than a software company? Also not running a social network and not reliant on online ads-sales.

How much does MS or Amazon make from online ad sales? Not sure you could claim either runs a social network either.

Re: Apple: The only big tech giant going against the job cuts tide

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> Apple is a public company, and public companies are accountable to shareholders, not customers. Tim Cook himself, a decade ago, might have had something to say about that¹. > It is possible to do what's best for both, and Apple still does that plenty My objection is the trend more than the current state. A decade ago it would have been unthinkable to me that Apple would ever have ads in any OS. Today, I’m dreading…

Apple isn’t an advertising company. It’s a hardware company that also does software. It’s analogous to HP of old, which is no great surprise given the founders.

And when you own the platform like Apple, you get to call Facebook/Google ads "tracking" and Apple ads "enriched digital experience".

Re: Apple: The only big tech giant going against the job cuts tide

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Who lost? Everyone who got laid off wouldn't have had at a job at all if they weren't hired, and they probably got severance packages for more than the average American makes in a year.

This is nonsense because the people that were laid off at Google (as one example) were not selected by their tenure or having been hired during pandemic or during the remote phase, nor was it based on performance reviews. People who had been there 12, 13, 16 years; people who had been just promoted. People who were senior management. People who were engineers. People who were on mat leave... Management there effectiv…

Apparently all support check in were targeted so it was performance based

Re: Apple: The only big tech giant going against the job cuts tide

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No scandals, no twitter addiction, no sexual assault cases. No bullshit. All this guy does is wake up at 4, work till 10, and sleep. Cuts his own pay voluntarily. Didn’t double his headcount while revenues fell like so many. Tim Cook is such a beast. Jobs left one last blessing for Apple shareholders in his decision to elevate Cook.

I don't know if I should consider he play by China Communist rules on censorship is a scandal, or not. https://9to5mac.com/2023/01/26/apple-china-website-censorshi...

If you look at what Apple has done since, diversifying production out of China, this may have been a trigger. It could also be purely supply chain stability, but Cook appears to be a more noble figure than his peers IMO.

The collision of politics and business is never good though, but in most cases the company has to bow politely, at least in the near term.

Re: Apple: The only big tech giant going against the job cuts tide

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No scandals, no twitter addiction, no sexual assault cases. No bullshit. All this guy does is wake up at 4, work till 10, and sleep. Cuts his own pay voluntarily. Didn’t double his headcount while revenues fell like so many. Tim Cook is such a beast. Jobs left one last blessing for Apple shareholders in his decision to elevate Cook.

> No scandals, no twitter addiction, no sexual assault cases. No bullshit. It’s unfortunate (and it says a lot about our current situation) that that behaviour is worthy of note. > Jobs left one last blessing for Apple shareholders in his decision to elevate Cook. I don’t understand the obsession with shareholders. It’s all about money money money, good products and respect for the customer be dammed. Cook was a fant…

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Re: Apple: The only big tech giant going against the job cuts tide

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Yes. I don't think any of the others would dare to run a platform as locked down as Apple, and if they tried then I don't think anyone would show up.

Xbox? How did Epic fair trying to get around the Play Store?

> Xbox?

Hmm, point. People tend to give video game systems more of a pass for historical reasons.

> How did Epic fair trying to get around the Play Store?

I assume they distributed non-Play Store APKs and it all quietly worked without any drama - that's how it is for Amazon, and how it's meant to work.

Re: Apple: The only big tech giant going against the job cuts tide

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Xbox? How did Epic fair trying to get around the Play Store?

> Xbox? Hmm, point. People tend to give video game systems more of a pass for historical reasons. > How did Epic fair trying to get around the Play Store? I assume they distributed non-Play Store APKs and it all quietly worked without any drama - that's how it is for Amazon, and how it's meant to work.

It was a complete failure.
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