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IBM to cut about 3,900 workers while still hiring in ‘higher growth’ areas

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Re: IBM to cut about 3,900 workers while still hiring in ‘higher growth’ areas

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skissane wrote: post #106
pjmlp wrote: post #103

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And language environments, which keep oldie programms running on modern hardware without recompilation. Something that neither UNIX nor Windows have fully embraced to the extent of mainframes/micros. All the deployments from Java and .NET workloads end up with some kind of compromise to classical UNIX/Windows development.

> And language environments, which keep oldie programms running on modern hardware without recompilation. I think we've had this discussion before. The Language Environment (LE) on z/OS doesn't do that. The Integrated Language Environment (ILE) on OS/400 [0] does do that. But while one part of ILE (the CEE runtime and its API) is common code between z/OS and OS/400 (and also VM, VSE, TPF and OS/2) – that bit doesn't…

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RickJWagner wrote: post #108
chr15p wrote: post #17

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For Oct-Dec 2022 (according to https://www.ibm.com/investor/att/pdf/IBM-4Q22-Earnings-Chart... ) Mainframes: $4.5 billion Consulting: $4.8 billion (even after selling off Kyndral) Software: $7.3 billion Software includes all of Red Hat, a pretty big security business, and "transaction processing" which isn't explained but I guess is running payroll and the like for other companies. So lots of un-sexy stuff that never…

"Transaction processing" means CICS. It's a mainframe transaction processor, ensures integrity in banking, airlines, etc.

Or IMS (the other, older mainframe transaction and database system), but yes I immediately had the same thought about the "software" category. A bet a substantial amount of that is software that integrates with the mainframe in some way.

Re: IBM to cut about 3,900 workers while still hiring in ‘higher growth’ areas

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survirtual wrote: post #77
opportune wrote: post #75

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How is that different from a bare metal Linux server?

It isn’t. It is significantly worse. IBM is a dinosaur company that exists because of embedded connections in government, banking, and defense. They charge 100x the going rate for ancient tech that’s insecure and an absolute nightmare to develop for. The sooner everyone drops anything associated with IBM or Oracle, the better for everyone. Absolute cancers.

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LaSombra wrote: post #102
survirtual wrote: post #77

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It isn’t. It is significantly worse. IBM is a dinosaur company that exists because of embedded connections in government, banking, and defense. They charge 100x the going rate for ancient tech that’s insecure and an absolute nightmare to develop for. The sooner everyone drops anything associated with IBM or Oracle, the better for everyone. Absolute cancers.

You can run Kubernetes on mainframes as well as Linux, so developing for mainframes has become easier these last 20 or so years.

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alephnerd wrote: post #96
jimbo9991 wrote: post #95

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Hacker news has always been an outgrowth of the startup world, and has never had much respect for "serious business". I guess because of the slow pace and paper pushing, which is a valid complaint about working at these kinds of organizations. It's something you eventually come to understand, but as a young person fresh from a CS program I understand how it can feel. This is likely to become less extreme over time as…

Even the startup conversations on here are completely detached from reality to be honest. There's a lack of understanding among commentators about how VC works, Category Creation, Pricing Strategy, GTM, Sales, etc. Most YC startup founders have their own private board at this point that they discuss stuff on now. HN has devolved into burned out Gen X or elder Millenial FAANG engineers bitching about their gilded cage…

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ASalazarMX wrote: post #50
yazzku wrote: post #34

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A piece of my soul died just trying to imagine the depths of boredom this would take you.

Poor people, must be soul crushing to have a well-paid, 9-5 job with technologies that don't have an eternal carrot on a stick that prevents them from achieving mastery at their trade. Where is the excitement of working during the weekend to make sure the dozens of random libraries npm downloaded as dependencies of the one you need to display a neon outline in the list of products are compliant?

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jehb wrote: post #86
marktangotango wrote: post #3

I think the notable thing here is; this is really a Redhat layoff since IBM "subsumed" or reverse merged or whatever it was with Redhat. My take is that IBM has been a barely warm carcass for > 20 years already and the Redhat deal did nothing to change that. Here I'm certain that the layoff will be onshore, and the continued hiring will be offshore. That's what they've been doing forever, and their lack of growth and…

I'm no longer there, but I was at Red Hat for three years and change after the acquisition by IBM was first announced. At least through my time there, this couldn't be further from the truth. Red Hat was operated at a completely independent company. I wasn't even allowed to promote IBM products and services because we didn't want to show favoritism over other partners.

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