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PagerDuty CEO Quotes Martin Luther King Jr. In Worst Layoff Email Ever

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Post by schrodinger »

ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #59
a4isms wrote: post #50

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PagerDuty engineer here. PagerDuty is not a messaging platform. You are correct that there are free products that can schedule people and send them messages, and with some elegant baling wire and duct tape, anyone can put together something that looks like a notification service. But ask yourself this: PD has competitors that provide messaging and schedules and cost less than PD. So even if they aren't free, why are…

And this is exactly why we don't have flying cars yet. What a racket.

We could easily have flying cars now but they're incredibly less efficient and roads work pretty well so where's the demand? Would you honestly buy one?

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Post by schrodinger »

deathanatos wrote: post #48
toomuchtodo wrote: post #22

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It’s sort of surprising this isn’t a product in various cloud providers; there are open source options of course (which cost engineering time), but this could also be as straightforward as a scheduler using existing IAM (user list) and messaging (voice, email, sms, webhooks) interfaces. You’d of course still be able to use this with non cloud infra based on telemetry or other signals to trigger the initial incident.…

Boy does this remind me of https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224 Scheduling is more complex than just an IAM list: there are escalation policies, the actual phase of the schedule, dealing with additions/removals, overrides, and not to mention the entirety of routing pages for which PD's solution isn't even powerful enough for our needs … because the problem is more complex than they bargained for! Not to mention…

I think Datadog should kill PD. They're software is great and the majority of our pages are based on a Datadog alert.

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Post by AdamJacobMuller »

gkoberger wrote: post #51
AdamJacobMuller wrote: post #42

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Maybe she saw this tweet and that's where she got the idea? When I saw the title here I thought maybe that tweet was satirizing her email, but, the tweet clearly predates it. Amazing.

This Tweet was a response to her email

The tweet was from the 24th and the email is today though?

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Post by AdamJacobMuller »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #52
AdamJacobMuller wrote: post #42

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Maybe she saw this tweet and that's where she got the idea? When I saw the title here I thought maybe that tweet was satirizing her email, but, the tweet clearly predates it. Amazing.

> the tweet clearly predates it Both were on the 24th. The PagerDuty post doesn't have a visible time but it refers to a town hall later in the day that was a couple hours before that tweet happened.

Ah, ok, that makes sense. Thanks.

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Post by DoesntMatter22 »

filmgirlcw wrote: post #182
DoesntMatter22 wrote: post #112

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No reason to think it would be better under another CEO? She drove Yahoo into the ground with incredibly useless ideas like a new weather app that made them no money. Basically everything she tried completely flopped and she tanked the value of the company. What are you even talking about?

Tell me you're completely unfamiliar with all of the terrible CEOs Yahoo had before Mayer without telling me you're completely unfamiliar with all of the terrible Yahoo CEOS. She inherited an absolutely untenable situation and yes, she failed, but given the atrocious track records of the previous five CEOs, she absolutely didn't do any worse and yes, she did at least get the company through the Alibaba IPO so that sh…

She tanked the company bro. It wasnt great before but it was a trash heap afterwards. She killed what did work.

She failed and milked the company for hundreds of millions. It's hilarious that you want to defend her

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Post by noveltyaccount »

deepsquirrelnet wrote: post #35

“You’re all fired, but on a positive note, MLK would say I’m an amazing leader.” Ouch. I’m not sure if it’s worse to get laid off after that email or have to stay for that kind of leadership.

AND we had great financial performance, too bad we couldn't afford to pay you suckers! Epic

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Post by gkoberger »

AdamJacobMuller wrote: post #223
gkoberger wrote: post #51

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This Tweet was a response to her email

The tweet was from the 24th and the email is today though?

The Gizmodo article is from today, but the letter itself was posted the 24th.

Here's the original source: https://www.pagerduty.com/blog/improving-pagerdutys-operatio...

Here's a Tweet quoting it at 11am PST: https://twitter.com/noahchestnut/status/1617960469565931523

And the tweet in the parent was ~4 hours later at 2:52pm PST: https://twitter.com/mattstratton/status/1618018859763798016

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Post by kyleee »

awill wrote: post #116
pavlov wrote: post #36

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HP also had Léo Apotheker as CEO, so the competition is very tough at this company. A pet rock would have done a better job for cheaper than Apotheker.

Can confirm. I was at HP during Leo's tenure. I remember we bought Palm in July, 2010, but because the Palm Tablet (TouchPad) didn't immediately eclipse the iPad in sales, the whole thing was cancelled. How arrogant do you have to be to think you will overtake the iPad in sales over a single quarter.

The whole touchpad thing is really baffling, I remember they fire-saled them and having one. It wasn’t half bad and deserved much better commitment from the execs. What a waste of engineering effort

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Post by unsupp0rted »

dboreham wrote: post #121
CSMastermind wrote: post #81

About three years ago I was put in charge of improving incident response at a rapidly growing company. The previous iteration of that project had rolled out Pagerduty. I did a comparison between Pagerduty and OpsGenie with the latter being like 1/10 the cost of Pagerduty. There was no significant feature gap between the two and their sales team couldn't articulate one. At one point their sales guy told me they are po…

Most of these "services" can be implemented in house with some Python scripts.

So can Dropbox

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Post by unsupp0rted »

belter wrote: post #53

"A CEO, a laborer, and an immigrant are at a table: the table has 20 cookies. The CEO takes 19 cookies and says to the laborer, “look out, that immigrant is trying to take your cookie!”

> announces a decent severance pay of 11 weeks, with extended healthcare coverage and job support.

She left on the table at least 2 cookies

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