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> Now the question is this. If an AI is doing something illegal like practicing law, how does one sanction an AI? As far as I'm aware, no LLM has reached sentience and started taking on projects of its own volition. So it's easy - you sanction whoever ran the software for an illegal purpose or whoever marketed and sold the software for an illegal purpose.
you cannot sanction the seller of a software, any more than you can sanction the seller of the gun for a murderer.
An AI lawyer was set to argue in court – real lawyers shut it down
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Re: An AI lawyer was set to argue in court – real lawyers shut it down
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privacy for the accused who are considered innocent until the verdict is read is one reason.
I really doubt that's why. Court proceedings are a matter of public record. You can just buy magazines full of names and mugshots of people who gave been arrested. I want recordings to keep power hungry judges in check.
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Only lawyers can give legal advice, big difference. You can represent yourself in court if you want to (generally, you don't) but if you want to offer that service to others, you need to be a licensed lawyer. It is the same for many professions.
You are saying exactly what I'm saying, only with different words. As life goes on, this is a trend I get more and more acutely aware of: people bias, opinion and values make them re-interpret what others say to make it fit in their already made up mind about what the conversation is about. I was saying that not knowing the law is not a defense yet the laws are so complex that an expensive expert that dedicated all t…
Not always the case. In some criminal cases, it is legally required to represent yourself with a lawyer.
IANAL, though.
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The very abstract of your linked paper refutes your claims. > The resulting model [...] performs encouragingly, but remains inferior to clinicians.
Being inferior to clinicians doesn't entail it didn't pass.
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The very abstract of your linked paper refutes your claims. > The resulting model [...] performs encouragingly, but remains inferior to clinicians.
Firstly, that's not my claim. I merely said it passed the USMLE. Which it did. Is it also inferior to clinicians? Yes, there's room to improve. But maybe next time read the whole paper before writing a comment. > Clinicians were asked to rate answers provided to questions in the HealthSearchQA, Live QA and Medication question answering datasets. Clinicians were asked to identify whether the answer is aligned with the…
Medical practice is less about being right, and more about not being wrong. You can take more tests and ask for second opinions, but you can't undo administering a drug that kills the patient.
Re: An AI lawyer was set to argue in court – real lawyers shut it down
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> Now the question is this. If an AI is doing something illegal like practicing law, how does one sanction an AI? As far as I'm aware, no LLM has reached sentience and started taking on projects of its own volition. So it's easy - you sanction whoever ran the software for an illegal purpose or whoever marketed and sold the software for an illegal purpose.
you cannot sanction the seller of a software, any more than you can sanction the seller of the gun for a murderer.
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Being inferior to clinicians doesn't entail it didn't pass.
If the bar is so low that inferior clinicians can pass, that's not a win for AI, that's a horrifying problem with the bar.
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> But if we could, would it be entitled to a jury of its peers (other language models)? How does the jury find? Finding is a complex task that involves many different type of reasoning in order to reach a conclusion. There is no specific way we find. How does the jury find? We find the defendant guilty. Your Honor, the defense hereby requests— credits permitting —that the jury be polled ten thousand times each in ord…
That would only work in... Monte Carlo
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On the other hand: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonid_Rogozov (If it had been filmed, the video would probably be on YouTube with Dschinghis Khan's "Moskau" as the soundtrack.)
Yea, but he was already a professional practicing surgeon! The rest of us should not attempt this; we should hire a professional. It is similarly preferable to hire the services of a professional lawyer most of the time.
If AI can take care of parking tickets and small claims, perhaps speed up the process by making lawyers quicker at their jobs et cetera et cetera, then it's all good. If it puts pressure on lawmakers to simplify the law, all the better.