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Re: PagerDuty CEO Quotes Martin Luther King Jr. In Worst Layoff Email Ever

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Post by ssklash »

guantanamo_bob wrote: post #66
klyrs wrote: post #8

> Nonetheless, it all starts to go downhill when she decides to use the same email where she announces layoffs to celebrate recent employee promotions, reveal good financial results for the fourth quarter of last year, and state that the company expects to end the year strong. The MLK quote: > ‘the ultimate measure of a [leader] is not where [they] stand in the moments of comfort and convenience, but where [they] sta…

The beautiful irony of quoting MLK while commending their great leadership is that it shows her complete obliviousness to many of things MLK advocated for, particularly in his later speeches.

Exactly. He spoke about the problems with capitalism and advocated for socialism as a way to achieve equality. This very important aspect of his politics is always conveniently forgotten, and especially when coming from CEOs and other beneficiaries of capital.

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Post by tablespoon »

jasmer wrote: post #100
KKKKkkkk1 wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my book, the unsurpassed champion is Marissa Mayer. She was a product manager at early Google who dated Sergey and was promoted to VP. One of her accomplishments at Google was choosing the palette for the Google logo using a data-driven process. Based off of this success, she was made the CEO of Yahoo!, which she promptly proceeded to drive into the ground.

I suggest this is sexism here - and I'm generally the last person to call that kind of thing out, usually assuming goodwill. Specifically for implying that someone traded sex for a promotion, unless you have some legit data there. Marissa was a very early person at Google, and contributed to a lot of things [1]. Obviously a Wikipedia entry is going to be hagiographic, and some early players are going to be better tha…

> FYI Kamala Harris had a romantic relationship with someone in power who appointed her to positions she was not remotely qualified for

For anyone curious:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Brown_(politician)#Favo...:

> Brown's romantic relationship with Alameda County deputy district attorney Kamala Harris preceded his appointment of Harris to two California state commissions in the early 1990s. The San Francisco Chronicle called the Unemployment Insurance Appeals Board and the California Medical Assistance Commission patronage positions. When the appointments became a political issue in Harris's 2003 race for District Attorney, she responded: "Whether you agree or disagree with the system, I did the work".[57] Brown's relationship with Harris gained renewed attention in early 2019 after she had become a U.S. senator and ran for president.[58][59][60][61] Brown addressed the questions by publishing a piece in the San Francisco Chronicle titled "Sure, I dated Kamala Harris. So what?" He wrote that he may have "influenced" her career by appointing her to boards and supporting her run for District Attorney, but added that he had also influenced the careers of other politicians.

Re: PagerDuty CEO Quotes Martin Luther King Jr. In Worst Layoff Email Ever

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Post by tonymet »

CSMastermind wrote: post #188
tonymet wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How big of a monthly op-ex cost are we talking about here? is it like 1% of sales?

If I remember correctly we were around 1,600 engineers in our org at the time and the yearly cost savings were around $100,000. We saved a lot more on some other vendors, for instance I think we saved about $8 million with AWS but it was significant.

that is pretty massive thanks for sharing the insight

Re: PagerDuty CEO Quotes Martin Luther King Jr. In Worst Layoff Email Ever

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Post by ninjagoo »

isoos wrote: post #133
belter wrote: post #53

"A CEO, a laborer, and an immigrant are at a table: the table has 20 cookies. The CEO takes 19 cookies and says to the laborer, “look out, that immigrant is trying to take your cookie!”

It works with a politician even better.

A CEO, a Politician, a Supreme Court justice, a Cop, a Laborer and an Immigrant are at a table. The table has 20 cookies. The CEO takes 19 cookies, and passes one cookie to the Politician's PAC. The Politician says to the Laborer "look out, the Immigrant is trying to take your cookie!" and allocates a few crumbs from the table cookie to the Cop. The Cop beats the Laborer and shoots the Immigrant. The Supreme Court justice rules that the PAC is legal, the shooting is justified, and the Cop has qualified immunity for beating the Laborer.

Re: PagerDuty CEO Quotes Martin Luther King Jr. In Worst Layoff Email Ever

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Post by jasmer »

yellowapple wrote: post #169
jasmer wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suggest this is sexism here - and I'm generally the last person to call that kind of thing out, usually assuming goodwill. Specifically for implying that someone traded sex for a promotion, unless you have some legit data there. Marissa was a very early person at Google, and contributed to a lot of things [1]. Obviously a Wikipedia entry is going to be hagiographic, and some early players are going to be better tha…

"Suggesting that someone traded sex for a position of power is sexist... now hold my beer while I do exactly that w.r.t. the sitting Vice President of the United States." Your point would've been much stronger had you not used this as an opportunity for a political cheap shot; your last paragraph completely nullifies the three preceding it.

Kamala Harris used her relationship to obtain considerable power in a nakedly callous manner, it's a stark reality.

Aside from the more vulgar elements, it's immoral and wold be illegal in most circumstances; it's just straight corruption.

To wit, those participating in these actions are Lawmakers and those responsible for the Justice System aka District Attorney, further embroiling the hypocrisy in the situation.

It's understandable people will feel uncomfortable with that reality, because it resonates with a kind of slander that is used to belittle people (especially women), hence my calling out the individual OP for making arbitrary insinuations.

But it's irresponsible to ignore such actions because it doesn't fit either one's political orientation, or triggers one's sensitivities.

What Harris did was bad. Arbitrarily insinuating women are only successful because they 'slept around' is also bad. It's actually not very nuanced at all once you start to think about it.

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Post by BaseballPhysics »

quantified wrote: post #131
BaseballPhysics wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Now now, let's not understate the accomplishments of Elizabeth Holmes.

Any league table of contenders would be a social third rail. Kind of an anti-"hot or not"/original Facebook focused on business aspects, profile pictures banned. Super bad idea, don't do it.

I honestly can't tell if you're serious or concern trolling...

Re: PagerDuty CEO Quotes Martin Luther King Jr. In Worst Layoff Email Ever

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Post by jeffwask »

ninjagoo wrote: post #196
pavlov wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HP also had Léo Apotheker as CEO, so the competition is very tough at this company. A pet rock would have done a better job for cheaper than Apotheker.

It seems to be the general trend - HP, Google being the poster companies for this - post-founder companies seem to lose their soul altogether, if they had one to start with. I wonder if that is because the skills and values needed to climb the corporate ladder to Executive positions are fundamentally different from those of Founders that formed their ethos in the broader society, outside of the ladder-climbing enviro…

The key quote I see in a lot of these stories is "change the culture" and it seems the decision to change the culture from what got you there to something else is done entirely without understanding what the current culture actually is.

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Post by BaseballPhysics »

tonymet wrote: post #162
belter wrote: post #53

"A CEO, a laborer, and an immigrant are at a table: the table has 20 cookies. The CEO takes 19 cookies and says to the laborer, “look out, that immigrant is trying to take your cookie!”

Without the CEO there wouldn't be any cookies. It's not hypothetical look at countries with plenty of "flour, eggs, baking soda" and no "recipe".

You've done a masterful job of missing the point of that little story.

Hint: Consider there may be other options beyond eliminating CEOs entirely.

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Post by jasmer »

tablespoon wrote: post #202
jasmer wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suggest this is sexism here - and I'm generally the last person to call that kind of thing out, usually assuming goodwill. Specifically for implying that someone traded sex for a promotion, unless you have some legit data there. Marissa was a very early person at Google, and contributed to a lot of things [1]. Obviously a Wikipedia entry is going to be hagiographic, and some early players are going to be better tha…

> FYI Kamala Harris had a romantic relationship with someone in power who appointed her to positions she was not remotely qualified for For anyone curious: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Brown_(politician)#Favo... : > Brown's romantic relationship with Alameda County deputy district attorney Kamala Harris preceded his appointment of Harris to two California state commissions in the early 1990s. The San Francisc…

[1] State of California's guide on 'Conflict of Interest' which one will find that appointing one's partner/gf/bf/spouse to arbitrary positions would nominally be illegal. Note that this is the statement by the 'Office of Attorney General' of California, a position to which Ms. Harris was elevated after direct appointments by her then partner, Willie Brown, thereby making issues of 'conflict of interest' considerably more problematic.

Though I don't think we need to derail this conversation too much away from the fact that though these things do happen, belittling women (or men) arbitrarily for supposedly doing these kinds of things is not nice at all.

And that Ms. Tajeda is holding her own in indicating we can all be a bit insufferable ...

[1] https://oag.ca.gov/conflict-interest

Re: PagerDuty CEO Quotes Martin Luther King Jr. In Worst Layoff Email Ever

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Post by a4isms »

deathanatos wrote: post #48
toomuchtodo wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s sort of surprising this isn’t a product in various cloud providers; there are open source options of course (which cost engineering time), but this could also be as straightforward as a scheduler using existing IAM (user list) and messaging (voice, email, sms, webhooks) interfaces. You’d of course still be able to use this with non cloud infra based on telemetry or other signals to trigger the initial incident.…

Boy does this remind me of https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224 Scheduling is more complex than just an IAM list: there are escalation policies, the actual phase of the schedule, dealing with additions/removals, overrides, and not to mention the entirety of routing pages for which PD's solution isn't even powerful enough for our needs … because the problem is more complex than they bargained for! Not to mention…

> Boy does this remind me of https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224

That is HN's version of "No wireless. Less space than a Nomad. Lame."

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