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Poll: Do you think HN should go dark in protest of SOPA?

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Re: Poll: Do you think HN should go dark in protest of SOPA?

#171

1) The more sites decide to shut down on the 18th, the easier it becomes for major websites like Google, Twitter, and Facebook to join. It also increases the chances that this is going to be covered by the mainstream media. 2) Perhaps a blackout will give some HNers the final push (and time) to make some phone calls to their representatives. 3) It can serve as a demonstration of what the web will be like if SOPA kick…

FWIW, I think if Google, Twitter, and/or Facebook joined, they'd just put up custom messages (maybe with a link?) to an anti-SOPA page. Of course, the question is, how do they define their political neutrality after this?

I think not allowing SOPA and PIPA to pass, by itself defines neutrality. They just want the Internet the remain like it's always been - unaffected by politics.

Re: Poll: Do you think HN should go dark in protest of SOPA?

#173

I wanted to vote no, because it seems so Pyrrhic, maybe a little gimmicky: "See, we shut down a site you don't use!" But if you're asking people to make a sacrifice you're not willing to make yourself, you're a bad leader, period. I'm not saying HN is the bastion of the tech world. But if we're upvoting the Reddit shutdown (at least I did), and we can't turn around and do it ourselves, well, we're not made of very to…

I see your point, but disagree. I think it makes a lot more sense for HN to do whatever HN believes is the most effective thing, rather than do what reddit did.

I see it as fake work. We would being doing something ineffective to prove a point and distracting from something potentially more useful (which may or may not also prove that point).

Re: Poll: Do you think HN should go dark in protest of SOPA?

#174
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

reddit is down all day multiple times a year and it's never a "big news story"

According to that logic, it wouldn't matter either if Twitter, Google Apps, Blackberry Messenger, iCloud+Siri, and Dropbox were to shut down for the day...

Don't forget Verizon's LTE network.

Re: Poll: Do you think HN should go dark in protest of SOPA?

#177
This seems totally ridiculous to me. Does anyone who comes to HN support SOPA? The advantage of companies like Facebook, Google and Amazon going black is that lots of people who have never heard of SOPA could be educated and asked to pressure congress.

What's the possible effect of HN going black?

Re: Poll: Do you think HN should go dark in protest of SOPA?

#178
I think we all need to step up to this ridiculous legislation (that's likely to get passed, $_ help us), however:

- If everyone on a site is aware of SOPA (and who isn't?), disappearing completely for the day doesn't help anything, really. And actually can be a bad thing; while I was able to watch the first hearing on CSPAN, I wasn't able to watch the other--the play-by-play on HN was really, really helpful.

- If no one who uses the site is aware of SOPA, going away will raise awareness and will be AWESOME.

- If your site is mission-critical, disappearing completely for the day is serious badness and could open you up to all sorts of mayhem.

By that logic, however, and I believe my logic is pretty sound, Google Search should display a doodle that jumps straight to opensecrets.org and Facebook should put up a big banner every third refresh telling everyone to wake the eff up. 0:)

Re: Poll: Do you think HN should go dark in protest of SOPA?

#179
I think we all need to step up to this ridiculous legislation (that's likely to get passed, $_ help us), however:

- If everyone on a site is aware of SOPA (and who isn't?), disappearing completely for the day doesn't help anything, really. And actually can be a bad thing; while I was able to watch the first hearing on CSPAN, I wasn't able to watch the other--the play-by-play on HN was really, really helpful.

- If no one who uses the site is aware of SOPA, going away will raise awareness and will be AWESOME.

- If your site is mission-critical, disappearing completely for the day is serious badness and could open you up to all sorts of mayhem.

By that logic, however, and I believe my logic is pretty sound, Google Search should display a doodle that jumps straight to opensecrets.org and Facebook should put up a big banner every third refresh telling everyone to wake the eff up. 0:)

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