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PagerDuty CEO Quotes Martin Luther King Jr. In Worst Layoff Email Ever

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Re: PagerDuty CEO Quotes Martin Luther King Jr. In Worst Layoff Email Ever

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Post by bluepizza »

jasmer wrote: post #100
KKKKkkkk1 wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my book, the unsurpassed champion is Marissa Mayer. She was a product manager at early Google who dated Sergey and was promoted to VP. One of her accomplishments at Google was choosing the palette for the Google logo using a data-driven process. Based off of this success, she was made the CEO of Yahoo!, which she promptly proceeded to drive into the ground.

I suggest this is sexism here - and I'm generally the last person to call that kind of thing out, usually assuming goodwill. Specifically for implying that someone traded sex for a promotion, unless you have some legit data there. Marissa was a very early person at Google, and contributed to a lot of things [1]. Obviously a Wikipedia entry is going to be hagiographic, and some early players are going to be better tha…

From wiki: > She oversaw the layout of Google's well-known, unadorned search homepage.

There was literally nothing to oversee. Even in this unadorned search homepage, she was able to keep an unused button (I'm feeling lucky) for more than a decade.

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Post by condour75 »

Spivak wrote: post #104
dennis_jeeves1 wrote: post #88

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Speaking about diversity. We need some diversity among men who collect garbage and plumbers. Why? Because diversity is good. /s

You say that like it's not the goal. Yes, women are more vocal about male dominated careers that they're actively trying to enter but you're missing the forest. For adult women the damage of "has never even thought about a career as a plumber because that's a boy job" has already been done. You could probably name 20 careers that are like this for both men and women off the top of your head. That doesn't mean it's no…

Also, not the point, but plumbing is very lucrative.

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Post by dudul »

rom-antics wrote: post #114
dudul wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What other shape do you suggest for a vehicle meant to escape Earth's gravity and reach space? I know it's not your main point, but every time I hear the "oh look at these nerdy space men playing with their phallic toys!" comment I get curious about the alternative.

Look at wikipedia's top picture of the space shuttle. Far more respectable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle

The space shuttle was great, but it was retired for a reason.

Additionally, when taking off it did essentially look like a rocket. The shuttle is small compared to the tank/boosters combination. And these are the ones making sure it can take off.

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Post by coldpie »

quantified wrote: post #136
coldpie wrote: post #55

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What's the matter with a penis? Are you body-shaming half the human race?

Mate, I'm gonna make fun of anyone who spends billions to launch a three-zillion-times-scale human genital model into space. Bezos happened to pick the penis.

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Post by [deleted] »

dudul wrote: post #92
bastardoperator wrote: post #6

CEO's are completely detached from reality. Glad we got rid of pagerduty by hiring a couple folks outside of the US. Now everyone gets to sleep.

I have no words to express how much I hate US culture around on call duty. When I was on call in Europe, in 2 different countries, it was either: * you're on call but you get paid extra hours for each hour on call. This was enforced by law. You're asking an employee to put in more than the legal 40-ish hours? You pay. Let me tell you that companies only used that when they really cared about being up 24/7. * your wor…

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Post by vkou »

KKKKkkkk1 wrote: post #68
jeffwask wrote: post #21

I'm really happy for her. Worst CEO has typically been a male dominated category. It's nice see some diversity in lacking empathy and having over inflated egos.

In my book, the unsurpassed champion is Marissa Mayer. She was a product manager at early Google who dated Sergey and was promoted to VP. One of her accomplishments at Google was choosing the palette for the Google logo using a data-driven process. Based off of this success, she was made the CEO of Yahoo!, which she promptly proceeded to drive into the ground.

Yahoo! was in free-fall long before MM.

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Post by onlyrealcuzzo »

dboreham wrote: post #121
CSMastermind wrote: post #81

About three years ago I was put in charge of improving incident response at a rapidly growing company. The previous iteration of that project had rolled out Pagerduty. I did a comparison between Pagerduty and OpsGenie with the latter being like 1/10 the cost of Pagerduty. There was no significant feature gap between the two and their sales team couldn't articulate one. At one point their sales guy told me they are po…

Most of these "services" can be implemented in house with some Python scripts.

But someone has to write and maintain those scripts - which costs money - exactly like OpsGenie - plus it distracts them from doing whatever the company needs which should be worth multiples on their time...

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Post by tonymet »

CSMastermind wrote: post #81

About three years ago I was put in charge of improving incident response at a rapidly growing company. The previous iteration of that project had rolled out Pagerduty. I did a comparison between Pagerduty and OpsGenie with the latter being like 1/10 the cost of Pagerduty. There was no significant feature gap between the two and their sales team couldn't articulate one. At one point their sales guy told me they are po…

How big of a monthly op-ex cost are we talking about here? is it like 1% of sales?

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Post by lamontcg »

rom-antics wrote: post #114
dudul wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What other shape do you suggest for a vehicle meant to escape Earth's gravity and reach space? I know it's not your main point, but every time I hear the "oh look at these nerdy space men playing with their phallic toys!" comment I get curious about the alternative.

Look at wikipedia's top picture of the space shuttle. Far more respectable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle

Hooking it to the side of the main tank is now seen as a design flaw. The X-37 and the Starship being on top of a stack isn't an engineering accident.
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