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Urgent public health warning issued over lost radioactive capsule

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Re: Urgent public health warning issued over lost radioactive capsule

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When I was living in Neuquén, Patagonia Argentina, we had the same situation.

The city was closed almost a day because a truck driver lost the capsule while driving his truck.

The mayor concern was someone trowing that to the river.

That was 25 years ago I think.

Edit: I'm reading that 6 years ago the same happened..

Re: Urgent public health warning issued over lost radioactive capsule

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As usual, the press omits the technical specification of the radiation source, leaving one trying to deduce it from the roundabout descriptions in the article. Would it kill them to put something like "a 37 MBq Cs-137 source" somewhere? Granted, the WA Health press release is not too informative either, but at least it identifies the material.

(The X8 capsule from [1] is a dead ringer for the one described.)

[1] https://www.qsa-global.com/industrial-cs-137-gamma-sources

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post #22

As usual, the press omits the technical specification of the radiation source, leaving one trying to deduce it from the roundabout descriptions in the article. Would it kill them to put something like "a 37 MBq Cs-137 source" somewhere? Granted, the WA Health press release is not too informative either, but at least it identifies the material. (The X8 capsule from [1] is a dead ringer for the one described.) [1] http…

I expect nobody outside of the technician who ordered the shipment to understand any of those words.

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I am a bit surprised they haven't found it a >1mCi Cs137 source should be quite easy to find, it can be detected with a medium sized detector from >10m distance. A car driving along the road with a bunch of detectors in the trunk or a helicopter with a stack of NaI bars mounted on the bottom should see the radiation emitted by the source.

I am working at a National Lab in the US and this is the main focus of my research. Please have a look at our website if you are interested in learning more about this type of things [1].

[1]: https://anp.lbl.gov/

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An urgent warning to stay meters away from a button-battery sized object somewhere along a 1,400 km road? Seems kind of pointless. > DFES Country North chief superintendent David Gill said there would be "challenges" in locating such a small object. Wouldn't the radioactivity make finding such a small object far, far easier? It looks like the road is two lanes with a dirt shoulder. Couldn't they get a truck, mount se…

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Re: Urgent public health warning issued over lost radioactive capsule

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I am a bit surprised they haven't found it a >1mCi Cs137 source should be quite easy to find, it can be detected with a medium sized detector from >10m distance. A car driving along the road with a bunch of detectors in the trunk or a helicopter with a stack of NaI bars mounted on the bottom should see the radiation emitted by the source. I am working at a National Lab in the US and this is the main focus of my resea…

If they just wait until night, they can use thermal vision goggles and find it via helicopter.

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Don’t they have satellites that pick up these readings? I’m always interested how top-secret technologies could filter into local law-enforcement or civil safety efforts, but are prevented from doing so because of the security classification. Like how many times, do you think a murder or something pertinent to solving that has been captured on some sort of satellite or surveillance feed, but it’s never released to th…

20+ km of atmosphere would block all the radiation before a satellite could pick it up.

Yeah? But not signatures of radiation interacting with atmospheric particles, right? I think surely there’s gotta be a way to detect emitted light spectra, or a change in the spectra of atmospheric chemicals, as they’re reacting with that radiation.

Re: Urgent public health warning issued over lost radioactive capsule

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

20+ km of atmosphere would block all the radiation before a satellite could pick it up.

Yeah? But not signatures of radiation interacting with atmospheric particles, right? I think surely there’s gotta be a way to detect emitted light spectra, or a change in the spectra of atmospheric chemicals, as they’re reacting with that radiation.

possibly relevant: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S13646... "Estimate of the source parameters of terrestrial gamma-ray flashes observed at low-Earth-orbit satellites"
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