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Yann LeCun: ChatGPT is 'not particularly innovative'

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Re: Yann LeCun: ChatGPT is 'not particularly innovative'

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>Google seemingly losing the narrative war I think we’re seeing here. Google doesn't care about the narrative war. They care about getting sued by the EU. They can put out a similar model whenever they want. The just don't want to, because the thing about AI research (vs., say, social media) is there's no first mover advantage. The best model wins and there's no network effect to bolster incumbents.

> The just don't want to, because the thing about AI research (vs., say, social media) is there's no first mover advantage. That’s true and I am not worried for Google in the slightest. However, once a tool is good enough, both the branding and use of it becomes somewhat sticky. It’s why people still call any tablet an iPad, and it’s one of the reasons even if a large search engine launched tomorrow people would keep…

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Re: Yann LeCun: ChatGPT is 'not particularly innovative'

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> > I would flippantly summarize them as: "..." > Please don't put in quotes something that is not a direct quote. What part of "I would flippantly summarize them as" was unclear? Or was that comment edited?

Looks like I missed that part. But I would not call the summarization faithful to the source. The garbage bit is basically made up.

It's called opinion.

Re: Yann LeCun: ChatGPT is 'not particularly innovative'

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post #141

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The god damn thing has to do 175B multiply and add operations for each one of your words.

Who cares? OP was asking about UX improvements. Maybe I missed the part, but IMHO no one was asking only for UX improvements that come cheap.

They said "just speed the god damn thing up" - this is related to model inference speed. If your answer is one page long (about 2000 tokens), be prepared to wait for a whole minute.

Re: Yann LeCun: ChatGPT is 'not particularly innovative'

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Yes, I have tried ChatGPT, and it told me dogs do not give birth to babies. However, ChatGPT doesn't provide deterministic answers and improves responses over time. Many of the internet examples no longer work. I asked, "If a woman gives birth to a baby in 9 months, how many months does a dog take to give birth to a baby." It answered, "Dogs do not give birth to babies." Currently, it answers, "On average, a dog's ge…

> For example, for a performance review, you can give it bullet points and ask to write a review. Please don't do this. It obfuscates what you are trying to communicate. You are harming your communication and your relationship.

Still not as bad as it's going to be. I'd wager that within a year someone's going to write a script that compares your GitHub contributions against your peers, feeds all of your Slack/email conversations into ChatGPT for professionalism, tone, and helpfulness analysis and feeds it back into ChatGPT to produce a completely automated "performance review".

Re: Yann LeCun: ChatGPT is 'not particularly innovative'

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post #170

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> For example, for a performance review, you can give it bullet points and ask to write a review. Please don't do this. It obfuscates what you are trying to communicate. You are harming your communication and your relationship.

Still not as bad as it's going to be. I'd wager that within a year someone's going to write a script that compares your GitHub contributions against your peers, feeds all of your Slack/email conversations into ChatGPT for professionalism, tone, and helpfulness analysis and feeds it back into ChatGPT to produce a completely automated "performance review".

That's fine because within a year my and my peers are going to let ChatGPT write all our code and handle all our code review requests. It's going to be AI all the way down.

Re: Yann LeCun: ChatGPT is 'not particularly innovative'

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post #170

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Yes, I have tried ChatGPT, and it told me dogs do not give birth to babies. However, ChatGPT doesn't provide deterministic answers and improves responses over time. Many of the internet examples no longer work. I asked, "If a woman gives birth to a baby in 9 months, how many months does a dog take to give birth to a baby." It answered, "Dogs do not give birth to babies." Currently, it answers, "On average, a dog's ge…

> For example, for a performance review, you can give it bullet points and ask to write a review. Please don't do this. It obfuscates what you are trying to communicate. You are harming your communication and your relationship.

I am after a rewrite in more elegant language than I can produce myself. I do not auto-accept the review; it is a good starting point for me to tweak. Any written performance review is followed up by a face-to-face meeting to clarify anything written down. ChatGPT is a tool, not magic, however, I find it helps with writers block.

Re: Yann LeCun: ChatGPT is 'not particularly innovative'

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Yes I get that. But just speed the god damn thing up.

The god damn thing has to do 175B multiply and add operations for each one of your words.

I’d much prefer the type be hidden until it’s ready entirely.

Re: Yann LeCun: ChatGPT is 'not particularly innovative'

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This is very much people seeing the Apple Lisa(and/or Mac) for the first time. It had all been done better in the labs at Xerox over a decade earlier. No one got to use it though.

Google is the new Xerox - tons of cool tech that nobody gets to see besides white papers and articles. And the only real product that makes money is the search engine that may get disrupted very soon by newcomers using tech based on Google's own research.

Re: Yann LeCun: ChatGPT is 'not particularly innovative'

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maybe, but it's also just the fact of the matter.

That's not even a testable claim. What does it even mean to "not know what it is talking about"? If OP tried to operationalize its beliefs by making some prediction, like listing tasks that AI will never be able to reproduce because it "doesn't know what it is talking about", then that would be a discussion.

http://arxiv.org/abs/2301.06627
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