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But could they find a judge/jury sympathetic to any Russian concerns?
courts decide much more based on law than sympathies, seriously
Usually yes, but not always and I think we all know this.
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I wonder if that's a function of their technology or their database. Google's image search used to be good, but regulations have forced them to cripple it in some ways, and they might have chosen not to surface results in some contexts.
Not only regulations, Chrome's builtin image search uses Google Lens to find products to sell you instead of simple reverse searches. It has become useless.
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Yandex translation and maps were also substantially better than Google in Russia when I traveled there in 2019
I like that I can just drag & drop or paste any image into Yandex Translate website and it translates anything, also it has a better language detection than google translate, so you don't have to waste time to look the language you want to translate from. So far I haven't found any alternative, other than Bing translate desktop app...
Google Lens translates images too.
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In many places I worked at in Brazil people will just write everything, even variable names, in Portuguese. That came down to the developers not speaking English at all. Who considers it gauche to have software written in non-English? The Russians you mean? I certainly find it perfectly acceptable and even desirable depending on the contributor's English fluency.
>Who considers it gauche to have software written in non-English? 2x BigCo's I've worked at, with 1-5K IT staff. Yandex is xbig though, with 5K+. >That came down to the developers not speaking English at all. That sounds implausible and not very sane, unless of course you're working for something very static like the government, and the tech stack you're using is set in stone. Imagine that you're using a popular libr…
Other people in the industry know multiple languages and translate. Also, reading is much easier than writing. So, I'd say that, with maybe help of Google translate, a majority of people would be able to read those. Given I read and write English relatively well, I'd also help out with efforts whenever it was needed.
Anyway, you'd be surprised at how much documentation and resources are available in Portuguese. You can get by alright with it. I did it when I was younger and eager to learn how to code.
I've worked in big companies in Brazil where docs and comments were mostly in Portuguese. And some teams would even use Portuguese variable names.
Just because they do it differently in Russia, it doesn't mean every country is like that. Remember what you said about bubbles and all.
By the way, interestingly, I've briefly worked for the government there once and it was one of the places where English was most prevalent. People there were very open source oriented, which the Brazilian government incentivizes (at least used to back then). So, nearly all code had English comments and docs. Differently from closed source intiatives in the industry where other people reading it was considered a liability and not a goal.
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In many places I worked at in Brazil people will just write everything, even variable names, in Portuguese. That came down to the developers not speaking English at all. Who considers it gauche to have software written in non-English? The Russians you mean? I certainly find it perfectly acceptable and even desirable depending on the contributor's English fluency.
Portuguese is still latin, isn't it. I suppose much of it is similar to English. Imagine if everything was, say, ελληνικά.
Yeah. I can see how that could be more difficult. Usually programmers will stick to ASCII in Portuguese, even though technically there are some non ASCII characters in the language. I can only imagine it's much more troublesome in Cyrillic. Anyway, my point was just that not writing comments in English is common practice in some corners of the world
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#337Curious. On one hand, Yandex being the biggest IT company and inevitably close to Russian gov, an anti-Russia ex employee could do this in protest after leaving country and company since the latest war started (I know people who did). But on the other hand I heard Yandex was planning to relocate completely to an EU country, which seems like distancing from Russian government, and then it could be an attack by pro-Put…
as a russian, when I read "Yandex was planning to relocate completely to an EU country" I feel that it's obvious that it's not possible for it to relocate completely. Yet, I cannot explain why...
allegedly the fear of government is so big that in the beginning of the war management in internal meetings said something like "If we publish real news about the war then it will be our 5 minutes of glory, and then the company will cease to exist"
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#338Interesting that most of the code comments are in English.
i've seen more comments in russian than in english. what's your numbers?
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what business and to what government? are you in your dreams?
i guess it's about recent exchange of their news service to vk. not literaly sold to the government https://techcrunch.com/2022/09/12/yandex-news-zen-vk-sale-co...
Its not only news service. Few services are left under the Yandex INTL. What are the services - ... you gotta know... they haven't published a proper disclosure, only couple of press-releases, which is alarming for a still part-public traded co.
I remember some sources that they've sold ALL their media services, and the INTL is only left with services like taxi and delivery.
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> People have no further curiosity beyond working and making money in tech. For some, sure. There are also many who still explore, but qualitatively the overall culture feels very different. Unfortunately, there are employers who seem to want their employees to tinker, but own virtually everything they do, all while still playing lip service to supporting work-life balance, including parenting. So we get mixed messag…
> There are also many who still explore, but qualitatively the overall culture feels very different. I thought the same, then one day I stumbled onto a discord populated by teens and college students who were doing the same sort of shenanigans my friends and I were up to back in the day. The S/N ratio is worse, but there are still people out there having fun!
Fair enough. Still, after many decades in software, the current ethos feels so different as to be unrecognizable from where I started. I learned to program on an Apple ][+. To start, I was not business driven; I primarily explored software and hardware, without a particular business end in mind.
Later, after studying engineering, I moved more into caring about problems and products. Over time, I found more and more companies wanted the benefits of having skilled software developers, but they seems to primarily want the businessified version -- solve the problem at hand while punting obvious existential problems down the road.
Sure, many Silicon Valley startups say they want "passionate" programmers, but they didn't usually embrace the tradeoffs that go along with it ... time and resources to explore, supporting risk taking, and fostering a culture where some experimentation is its own end (not merely a means).
Worse, these same companies that claimed to be business focused didn't even engineer well.
So often I saw a double failure: a lack of both the long-term exploration and tactical execution. Somehow both got lost.
There are exceptions of organizations that have healthy, adaptive cultures that internalize continual assessment and improvement, ranging across team interactions, software quality, user experience, and organizational processes.
Perhaps I was too naive and didn't fully appreciate the difficulty here; my progression in engineering has generally coincided with me lowering my expectations. I mean this as a trend line only; I have seen some impressive exceptions, but they tend to be unusual and fairly narrow in scope.
For example, the best product vision I've ever seen was coupled with a seemingly distracted CEO.
This is just one thread of my experience, I'm sure others have seen many other things. I for one would really enjoy reading reflections on working in the software industry.
For myself and perhaps other "passionate" programmers, learning to dial down "caring" and attempting to fit in with imperfect cultures is very hard. It would be one thing if the people in control seemed to understand the situation and showed empirically good results.