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Stanford student may need to ‘acknowledge harm’ for reading ‘Mein Kampf’

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Re: Stanford student may need to ‘acknowledge harm’ for reading ‘Mein Kampf’

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Just a reminder that a .org does not mean "trustworthy". https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Foundation_for_Individ... In this case, the discussion and the tenor of the conversation is almost certainly cherry picked to serve a particular agenda. On its face, the actions by Stanford in this article seem...not good. But I also suspect that this is making a mountain out of a molehill for political gain.

But now you’ve posted a .org! Is that one trustworthy?

Re: Stanford student may need to ‘acknowledge harm’ for reading ‘Mein Kampf’

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Can have fun with this particularly if it’s a 20th century European history course assignment. If books cause harm, then pretty much any religious text will be (very) offensive to another as it’s heretical etc. psychology texts probably really offend Scientologists, and I’m sure you can come up with other combinations without too much effort. Das Kapital, any civil war history covering the western campaign and it’s g…

You would have to ask the individual(s) who profess to have been harmed. Claiming "it must be X" and then dismissing X is approaching a straw man. Restorative justice practices are notoriously antithetical to the adversarial justice system we're used to dealing with. Assumptions we make in adversarial justice systems like open observation to ensure a public check on proceedings are not part of restorative practices.…

> by choosing Stanford, they implicitly consented to the system Stanford uses, restorative justice et al.

And other people, including Stanford alumni and donors and other constituents, are saying that if this is the result of restorative justice, it's perhaps an experiment that has run its course in its current form.

Re: Stanford student may need to ‘acknowledge harm’ for reading ‘Mein Kampf’

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post #27

Just a reminder that a .org does not mean "trustworthy". https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Foundation_for_Individ... In this case, the discussion and the tenor of the conversation is almost certainly cherry picked to serve a particular agenda. On its face, the actions by Stanford in this article seem...not good. But I also suspect that this is making a mountain out of a molehill for political gain.

How is keeping track of what people read a "molehill"? Do we now presume libraries will not keep your reading habits and history private?

Re: Stanford student may need to ‘acknowledge harm’ for reading ‘Mein Kampf’

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post #18

Devils advocate - it may be that Stanford is punishing the act of taking a picture and distributing it, rather than reading the book. I was thinking of reading Mein Kampf (I've never read it), but I'd never think to pose in front of it.

Yeah, I think there's not enough information to make a judgement call over the internet on this one. What specifically was in this photo, and who was it shared with or sent to? Contextual details are everything in these kinds of situations.

Re: Stanford student may need to ‘acknowledge harm’ for reading ‘Mein Kampf’

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you give a concrete example?

If you don’t regard the article up top as a concrete example, I’m not sure I can convince you.

I don't see any mention of the ACLU in the article about Stanford...

Re: Stanford student may need to ‘acknowledge harm’ for reading ‘Mein Kampf’

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post #27

Just a reminder that a .org does not mean "trustworthy". https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Foundation_for_Individ... In this case, the discussion and the tenor of the conversation is almost certainly cherry picked to serve a particular agenda. On its face, the actions by Stanford in this article seem...not good. But I also suspect that this is making a mountain out of a molehill for political gain.

Some other sources:

There is more information in the a "Stanford Daily" article:

https://stanforddaily.com/2023/01/22/protected-identity-harm...

And an opinion article in the "Standford Review":

https://stanfordreview.org/nazis-banned-books-we-shouldnt/

Re: Stanford student may need to ‘acknowledge harm’ for reading ‘Mein Kampf’

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Wow. Just wow. As far as I'm concerned, the student in question should have exactly one response to the Stanford administration. "Fuck You."

> the student in question should have exactly one response to the Stanford administration I would have assumed everyone would have rushed to check out copies of books this PIH deems harmful. More concretely, PIH is described as a "reporting system." Are Stanford's librarians violating their confidentiality duty? (EDIT: Never mind, it looks like a public-reporting system [1] to the let the campus rabbi get upset at wh…

I've generally followed the belief that if an authority body says should not do something, I definitely want to know what that something is.

This is continual additional blow back from the woke, hive mind virus.

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