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Amazon acquires 400 acres near new Intel development in Ohio

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Re: Amazon acquires 400 acres near new Intel development in Ohio

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Post by lr1970 »

rotten wrote: post #34

I live next to where this is going in (walking distance). We already have a huge Google Data Center, One of the Ohio-east region availability zones. A Meta data center and office park, and a dbt data center under construction all within a short radius. We also have a vitamin factory being built, we have a large Amazon Fulfillment center, an R&D lab for a perfume company, and an R&D lab for plastics packaging. All of…

> They got permission to wipe out acres and acres of wetlands without having to worry about mitigation by donating the money to some wildlife fund instead.

How is it anything but manifestation of the blatant corruption? And who run's this "wildlife fund" -- governor's nephew perhaps?

Re: Amazon acquires 400 acres near new Intel development in Ohio

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Post by LarryMullins »

doublerabbit wrote: post #134
LarryMullins wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I encourage you to leave the city and get a real sense of geographic scale.

I don't live in the US, nor Ohio. Back right at you, because maybe it should be you who should leave the country and see the disasters that these types of companies are causing to the world on a global geographic scale.

Since you do not live in America, I suppose you do not know how small 400 acres is. It's only 1.6 square kilometers.

Or maybe you live in a very small and dense country. Ohio is not a large state, but it is larger than many countries and perhaps larger than yours. Otherwise I cannot fathom your perspective. Whining about 400 acres of development in America is simply absurd.

Re: Amazon acquires 400 acres near new Intel development in Ohio

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Post by MrDunham »

hnburnsy wrote: post #127
MrDunham wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I moved to Columbus after growing up in the Bay Area ~5 years ago, am friends with the head of economic development, and my wife worked at one of the data centers near Intel. It's hard to describe the sheer amount of land available there within only a 20 minute drive from a top 20 population town. Although I'm still a self-described snobby Californian, there is quite a lot to do here (except skiing and the beach). Bu…

Doesn't New Albany have an income tax, on top of state and federal taxes, and extra property tax rate to pay for the new infrastructure. Gotta pay for the upkeep on that white fence.

They almost certainly have income tax - I can't speak to it though (we chose a different suburb nearby). Many of the cities do have an income tax and property taxes are quite high (I pay $1k/mo on a mid six figure home).

The full-load is still ~half of CA though, in my experience

Re: Amazon acquires 400 acres near new Intel development in Ohio

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Post by taylodl »

rotten wrote: post #34

I live next to where this is going in (walking distance). We already have a huge Google Data Center, One of the Ohio-east region availability zones. A Meta data center and office park, and a dbt data center under construction all within a short radius. We also have a vitamin factory being built, we have a large Amazon Fulfillment center, an R&D lab for a perfume company, and an R&D lab for plastics packaging. All of…

You're going to move - the taxes are going to eat you alive. I live on the NW side of Columbus and have many friends living in your area. It's now starting to dawn on them the taxes are going to drive them out.

It's interesting to hear about your wife's family history. My wife's family are the founders of that area - there's a plaque in town telling the history. They used to own large amounts of land in New Albany and the Westerville area. Lost it all during the Great Depression.

Things change.

On the bright side, AWS services are going to be super fast now!

Re: Amazon acquires 400 acres near new Intel development in Ohio

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Post by taylodl »

lr1970 wrote: post #141
rotten wrote: post #34

I live next to where this is going in (walking distance). We already have a huge Google Data Center, One of the Ohio-east region availability zones. A Meta data center and office park, and a dbt data center under construction all within a short radius. We also have a vitamin factory being built, we have a large Amazon Fulfillment center, an R&D lab for a perfume company, and an R&D lab for plastics packaging. All of…

> They got permission to wipe out acres and acres of wetlands without having to worry about mitigation by donating the money to some wildlife fund instead. How is it anything but manifestation of the blatant corruption? And who run's this "wildlife fund" -- governor's nephew perhaps?

Wouldn't be surprised. Ohio has become a solid red state and its Republican majority state government is corrupt to the core.

Re: Amazon acquires 400 acres near new Intel development in Ohio

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Post by ericmay »

sparrc wrote: post #69
tester756 wrote: post #5

Is Ohio becoming tech heartland?

Do datacenters actually do anything to draw in engineering or a significant number of tech jobs? Beyond just HVAC and a few server operations people. us-west-2 certainly hasn't done much to make The Dalles, Oregon a tech hub (or even Portland for that matter)

They don't, though at least this development seems to have enough footprint to do something interesting. A lot of people I talk to get excited "Google is coming to town" and it's like, you don't want warehouses (datacenters) moving in, you want engineers, designers, marketing teams, c-suite to move in. Intel is an example for Columbus of one of those things you really do want to come into town, which is why it's such a big deal.

Re: Amazon acquires 400 acres near new Intel development in Ohio

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Post by doublerabbit »

LarryMullins wrote: post #142
doublerabbit wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't live in the US, nor Ohio. Back right at you, because maybe it should be you who should leave the country and see the disasters that these types of companies are causing to the world on a global geographic scale.

Since you do not live in America, I suppose you do not know how small 400 acres is. It's only 1.6 square kilometers. Or maybe you live in a very small and dense country. Ohio is not a large state, but it is larger than many countries and perhaps larger than yours. Otherwise I cannot fathom your perspective. Whining about 400 acres of development in America is simply absurd.

Whining about the amount of destruction this causes and the environmental impact is far from absurd. Your the one in denial.

400 acres of reserved land is and will always be a positive mark than a DC from a company that abuses the planet so someone can pollute the planet and internet with a stupid app.

Keep the insults to yourself, because your no one special yourself. Your less of anyone when you start making accusations. I live in Scotland, which tyvm has far more than 400 acres of land-free for natural use.

Re: Amazon acquires 400 acres near new Intel development in Ohio

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Post by zahma »

snordgren wrote: post #132
zahma wrote: post #119

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Thanks for posting this. I’m sorry to hear about what all this “progress” might cost you personally in addition to the habitats around you. I don’t believe we have the right to cut down trees older than we are. It appears I’m in the minority in this country. Something similar happened to my partner’s grandmother’s place in rural France in a matter of years. My partner grew up in her grandparent’s backyard that was lo…

Of course we need to cut down trees that are older than we are. The alternative to development is stagnation and poverty. It's medieval Europe where the social status of your parents decided your social status and that of your children. Change is always hard, but the alternative is so much worse. There is no terra nullius that we can develop without anyone being bothered by it. Every house ever built does not have to…

Careful what you wish for. You might end up with endless strip malls, cookie-cutter buildings, and concrete cathedrals instead of beautiful forests and neighborhoods with a soul.

Re: Amazon acquires 400 acres near new Intel development in Ohio

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Post by rotten »

ErikCorry wrote: post #131
rotten wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The opposite. It is those of us who live here who are paying for the new water and sewer lines and roads and street lights and law enforcement. Not the developers nor the big corporations who are getting abatements.

You said "The Intel project is paying for highway development the power and sewer extensions and more."?

The Project, not Intel. It is Intel Project motivating the improvements which are making it possible for AWS, the box stores, the fast food joints, Google, and others to move in too. Intel the focal point for the money from the local governments, the state government, and the federal government to help make this happen.
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