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Re: Google+ Hacker News Circle makes Search plus Your World Amazing

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Post by UK-Al05 »

mladenkovacevic wrote: post #12

Thanks! This is bound to liven up my stream. I will refrain from adding myself to the HN circle though as I'm currently only a wanna-be hacker. But I do have have a fear of other wannabe hackers adding themselves to the circle and maybe polluting my stream with content that isn't as high quality as I'm used to on HN. (no upvote/downvote mechanism)

Hackers are not that elite, it's probably the least elite club. If you want to make or tinker with things you're probably welcome regardless of education or background. However being just plain offensive is another matter.

Re: Google+ Hacker News Circle makes Search plus Your World Amazing

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Post by mkr-hn »

lubujackson wrote: post #34

I'm not seeing what's so amazing about this, sorry... Google is basically hijacking the conversation off of HN and then making that searchable by its members, so what's exciting about that?

It's not pulling anything from HN. This is an index of HN members who have G+ accounts.

Re: Google+ Hacker News Circle makes Search plus Your World Amazing

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Post by jasonkester »

So what do you actually need to do to accomplish this? I followed the link to the Google+ page and it's just a giant wall of confusion.

I see a circle with a link in the middle saying "Add Circle". Is that what I want to do? I would have expected to see something along the lines of "Add me to this Circle" so that I'd be part of it.

Anyway, I clicked the "Add Circle" link, and got a string of progressively less parseable pages full of people's pictures that I can presumably drag and drop places. I just makes no sense whatsoever.

So first point: Google+ seems to have a terrible interface.

Second point: Assuming that somebody here (the author at least) must have interacted with that page in a way that created some form of value to his life. What are the steps to do so?

Re: Google+ Hacker News Circle makes Search plus Your World Amazing

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Post by rizzy »

FreeKill wrote: post #21
unreal37 wrote: post #2

How do you add yourself to the Hacker News Circle? I added the circle to my stream. Anything more I need to do?

The only other thing you need to do, other than add the circle to your profile, is occasionally go back to the circle and add it again (to the same circle in your profile) to get the newest list of people. Unfortunately, adding a shared circle only adds a copy of it at that moment, but not a dynamic one that updates itself. It's not so bad though, because adding a circle to an existing circle simply adds in people no…

I just found out about G+ adding limit. I tried to add the new circle that was just published and it said I have added too many today. Try again tomorrow.

Re: Google+ Hacker News Circle makes Search plus Your World Amazing

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Post by hyperbovine »

jasonkester wrote: post #43

So what do you actually need to do to accomplish this? I followed the link to the Google+ page and it's just a giant wall of confusion. I see a circle with a link in the middle saying "Add Circle". Is that what I want to do? I would have expected to see something along the lines of "Add me to this Circle" so that I'd be part of it. Anyway, I clicked the "Add Circle" link, and got a string of progressively less parsea…

Same exact experience here. Should I add the Hacker News circle to my friends circle? Acquaintances circle? Family circle?

At this point I can hear some Googler with a 160 IQ chiming in that, algorithmically, it doesn't matter whether Hacker News is a person or a group of people; the effect on personal search is the same. This misses the point. People think in metaphors, and if the metaphor is broken they assume the product is too.

With so many brilliant people at Google, and Facebook nipping at their heels, I am shocked at how bad G+ remains months after it launched.

Re: Google+ Hacker News Circle makes Search plus Your World Amazing

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Post by pgambling »

jasonkester wrote: post #43

So what do you actually need to do to accomplish this? I followed the link to the Google+ page and it's just a giant wall of confusion. I see a circle with a link in the middle saying "Add Circle". Is that what I want to do? I would have expected to see something along the lines of "Add me to this Circle" so that I'd be part of it. Anyway, I clicked the "Add Circle" link, and got a string of progressively less parsea…

You can add yourself to the Hacker News Circle at http://hngp.axxim.net/.

The "Hacker News Circle" Google+ re-shares an updated circle every 5 minutes. Clicking "Add Circle" allows you to copy that circle into one of your own.

I just made a straight copy called "Hacker News" in my circles where I dump the shared circle.

All this is implementing a feature that Google+ desperately needs: a public circle that users can subscribe to rather than copy into their private circles, like Twitter's lists.

(Note: I am not the creator of the Hacker News Circle, just a user)

Re: Google+ Hacker News Circle makes Search plus Your World Amazing

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Post by sp332 »

jasonkester wrote: post #43

So what do you actually need to do to accomplish this? I followed the link to the Google+ page and it's just a giant wall of confusion. I see a circle with a link in the middle saying "Add Circle". Is that what I want to do? I would have expected to see something along the lines of "Add me to this Circle" so that I'd be part of it. Anyway, I clicked the "Add Circle" link, and got a string of progressively less parsea…

Go to https://plus.google.com/106419647632534512037/posts and, in one of the "Hacker News has shared a circle with you" posts, click the blue "View shared circle" button. Name the circle and voila, you now have a circle in your Google+ account with all the HN people who signed up on http://hngp.axxim.net/

Edit: I forgot to warn you that several hundred people will add you to their circles, and you will get notifications when that happens. You should probably go to https://www.google.com/settings/plus and preemptively disable those notifications before you are drowning in them.

That's all you need to do to get the results mentioned in the article, but you might get a lot of unwanted noise in your Google+ stream from this circle. If that's a problem for you, go to your Google+ "home" page https://plus.google.com/stream and find your new HN circle in the left-hand column. When you click it, you get a stream made from that circle, and you can change the "volume" of the circle using the slider that appears in the upper-right. Now when you browse your normal stream you won't get noise from the HN circle.

Re: Google+ Hacker News Circle makes Search plus Your World Amazing

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Post by antimatter15 »

I'm the maintainer of the Google+ Hacker News Circle (Well, the script/cron job that makes a circle from hngp.axxim.net). I increased the frequency to every five minutes to keep up with the new growth.

It's great that you're finding a use for it, but it's still irritating that the implementation of shared circles doesn't work well since you can only share a snapshot that users have to manually re-add in order to update.

Re: Google+ Hacker News Circle makes Search plus Your World Amazing

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Post by stonemetal »

hyperbovine wrote: post #45
jasonkester wrote: post #43

So what do you actually need to do to accomplish this? I followed the link to the Google+ page and it's just a giant wall of confusion. I see a circle with a link in the middle saying "Add Circle". Is that what I want to do? I would have expected to see something along the lines of "Add me to this Circle" so that I'd be part of it. Anyway, I clicked the "Add Circle" link, and got a string of progressively less parsea…

Same exact experience here. Should I add the Hacker News circle to my friends circle? Acquaintances circle? Family circle? At this point I can hear some Googler with a 160 IQ chiming in that, algorithmically, it doesn't matter whether Hacker News is a person or a group of people; the effect on personal search is the same. This misses the point. People think in metaphors, and if the metaphor is broken they assume the…

I made an HN specific circle so that it could easily be limited or turned off. Getting a flood of messages from several hundred people can be a bit annoying.

Re: Google+ Hacker News Circle makes Search plus Your World Amazing

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Post by farnsworth »

hyperbovine wrote: post #45
jasonkester wrote: post #43

So what do you actually need to do to accomplish this? I followed the link to the Google+ page and it's just a giant wall of confusion. I see a circle with a link in the middle saying "Add Circle". Is that what I want to do? I would have expected to see something along the lines of "Add me to this Circle" so that I'd be part of it. Anyway, I clicked the "Add Circle" link, and got a string of progressively less parsea…

Same exact experience here. Should I add the Hacker News circle to my friends circle? Acquaintances circle? Family circle? At this point I can hear some Googler with a 160 IQ chiming in that, algorithmically, it doesn't matter whether Hacker News is a person or a group of people; the effect on personal search is the same. This misses the point. People think in metaphors, and if the metaphor is broken they assume the…

The Hacker News Circle is a Google+ page that publishes the shared "Hacker Circle."

The Hacker Circle is a circle that has been shared publicly. This means you can look at the list of people in the circle, add any that look interesting, or, as I did, add the entire circle as one of my own personal circles.

But like the posts say, your own circle can't be updated by someone else. The page will periodically release an updated version of the circle, and if you want all the latest people, you need to go back to the page and re-add the circle.

To add yourself, visit the link as instructed in the posts.

As far as I can tell, when I do a search, social results should automatically show up. I must not have this feature turned on yet, or maybe I need to turn it on and can't figure out how.

I might be wrong on something, I don't even use G+ much, it's just how it seems to me on a few minutes of looking at it.

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