Mexico cracks down on solar geoengineering
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Re: Mexico cracks down on solar geoengineering
#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
> [...] experiments with the atmosephere of the people of Mexico? Yeah I'm not sure that's how the atmosphere works. Surely this stuff would diffuse and affect the atmosphere globally.
If nations don't have national sovereignty over their slice of the atmosphere, then are we saying all air pollution is an international crime? [For clarity I don't particularly disagree with this stance, but my mostly-overlooked point is that:] If people really think this, why is it that (on HN in particular) we overwhelmingly hear this point made in the context of geoengineering, and not for regular old pollution? I…
It's also brought up for "regular old pollution". Neighbouring countries of Germany are pushing for Germany to stop polluting the atmosphere with coal. South Korean associations are making efforts in China to stop them from building incinerators on their east coast, outside of Beijing.
You probably are just not living in an area of concern.
Re: Mexico cracks down on solar geoengineering
#93I really don’t like the idea of solar geoengineering. If we start sending up sulfur dioxide into the atmosphere and it fixes the problem. What do you think we’re going to do? Stop caring about global warming entirely, and pump way more green house gases… why wouldn’t we? We can just fix it with more sulfur dioxide. Then you send up more and more and more. And eventually something breaks. Now for some reason a countri…
>I don’t think we should be messing around with the earth until we can actually say that all parties are working towards the same thing. "Unattainable perfection of human nature must be achieved before we can even try fixing something." Xkcd already debunked this type of argument. https://xkcd.com/1232/
Funny enough I have zero problem with exploring other planets. My problem is when we start messing around with the only one we have without truly understanding every possible outcome. And having one country do it while it affects everyone.
Re: Mexico cracks down on solar geoengineering
#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's a cop out to the question and discussion.
It's perfectly in line with my position the whole discussion. Laws are arbitrary. Mexico is a soverign country and have the right to have whatever laws they want.
So you support Mexico's stance then? I was asking for an opinion.
Re: Mexico cracks down on solar geoengineering
#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's perfectly in line with my position the whole discussion. Laws are arbitrary. Mexico is a soverign country and have the right to have whatever laws they want.
So you support Mexico's stance then? I was asking for an opinion.
Stop putting words in my mouth.
Re: Mexico cracks down on solar geoengineering
#96Re: Mexico cracks down on solar geoengineering
#97Maybe I'm missing something, but besides reducing the Earth's temperature, vulcano eruptions have also caused famines, because reduced solar light impacts crop yield.
We have much better agricultural technology now, but:
1. Is there even any research saying we can counteract the reduction in solar light by "planting smarter"?
2. Agricultural technology is very unevenly distributed. If solar light gets reduced globally, Europe and US might be fine, but Africa, Asia, and South America could still face catastrophic reduction of crop yield.
I don't want say that it's a stupid idea, but boy, surely sounds like it is.
Re: Mexico cracks down on solar geoengineering
#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
If nations don't have national sovereignty over their slice of the atmosphere, then are we saying all air pollution is an international crime? [For clarity I don't particularly disagree with this stance, but my mostly-overlooked point is that:] If people really think this, why is it that (on HN in particular) we overwhelmingly hear this point made in the context of geoengineering, and not for regular old pollution? I…
It's also brought up for "regular old pollution". Neighbouring countries of Germany are pushing for Germany to stop polluting the atmosphere with coal. South Korean associations are making efforts in China to stop them from building incinerators on their east coast, outside of Beijing. You probably are just not living in an area of concern.
And of course entire countries are being wiped out due to global (20% US, 11% China, 7% Russia) CO2 emissions
Re: Mexico cracks down on solar geoengineering
#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, but it's enough to validate the delivery mechanism.
A baloon you mean? What is there to validate?
This plan, which consists of multiple stages: https://makesunsets.com/blogs/news/january-2023-flights
Re: Mexico cracks down on solar geoengineering
#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
Stop putting words in my mouth.
It was a question, I re-clarified. In other words, do you think it was right for Mexico to stop this, or do you disagree with their actions?
And my answer is that it doesn't matter. Right or wrong doesn't exist in international politics.
Do I want this to be the state of affairs? No. Can I change it? No. So it doesn't matter.