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Re: Ask HN: Self-hosting in 2023: Nextcloud on Linode, or...?

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Post by telis »

telis wrote: post #230

Rhea [BOT]: The user is looking for a solution to manage their data storage that isn't relying on a faceless entity. The user wants to use a Nextcloud office suite for text documents and spreadsheets, store photos and videos in a backup collection, and back up their email history. They are considering using AWS or Linode, or Digital Ocean, and possibly adding in a Mastadon server for ActivityPub. The current plan is…

It seems like the user is looking for a secure and reliable solution for their data storage that is affordable and allows them to stand up any additional services they might need in the future. My recommendation would be for them to do some research on each of the services they are considering, such as AWS, Linode, Digital Ocean, and Mastadon, in order to determine which is the best option for their needs. Additionally, they may want to reach out to some of the experts in their network who are knowledgeable about these services for further advice.

Re: Ask HN: Self-hosting in 2023: Nextcloud on Linode, or...?

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Post by jtode »

sandreas wrote: post #147

Proxmox with ZFS and zfs-auto-snapshot - rock solid, fully encrypted [3](german) and not too power hungry. On my Homeserver Fujitsu D3417-B2 Xeon 1225v5 32GB ECC RAM Pico PSU 150W Samsung 980 Pro NVMe it takes only 9.3 Watt idle after some optimizations and you can choose ready LXC containers like https://tteck.github.io/Proxmox/ or https://github.com/extremeshok/xshok-proxmox to partly automate some of the installat…

I'm avoiding virtualization other than docker containers until I can afford a system with ECC ram. I'm not even sure if containers are that safe but I think they are? I am a weird pastiche of extreme competence and shocking ignorance, but I know you don't want to run VMs on non-ECC.

Re: Ask HN: Self-hosting in 2023: Nextcloud on Linode, or...?

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Post by jtode »

vladstudio wrote: post #107

Trying out self-hosting is almost as addictive as trying out note managers :-) Anyway, here's my current setup: - Hetzner Cloud VPS -- https://www.hetzner.com/cloud -- I use it for a public website - https://vlad.studio/ - otherwise I'd get the cheapest option); 4€/mo - 1Tb Hetzner Storage -- https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-box -- mounted as an external drive to the server above; € 3.81 - Filerun -- https://w…

So this filerun, I looked at the demo page and it seems nice for the file storage aspects, and you say it can run any Nextcloud plugins? So it would be able to do all the little services like to do and grocery lists, calendar, some sort of office stuff, that kinda thing?

Re: Ask HN: Self-hosting in 2023: Nextcloud on Linode, or...?

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Post by vladstudio »

jtode wrote: post #233
vladstudio wrote: post #107

Trying out self-hosting is almost as addictive as trying out note managers :-) Anyway, here's my current setup: - Hetzner Cloud VPS -- https://www.hetzner.com/cloud -- I use it for a public website - https://vlad.studio/ - otherwise I'd get the cheapest option); 4€/mo - 1Tb Hetzner Storage -- https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-box -- mounted as an external drive to the server above; € 3.81 - Filerun -- https://w…

So this filerun, I looked at the demo page and it seems nice for the file storage aspects, and you say it can run any Nextcloud plugins? So it would be able to do all the little services like to do and grocery lists, calendar, some sort of office stuff, that kinda thing?

Cannot say, unfortunately - I do not use any of these plugins.

Re: Ask HN: Self-hosting in 2023: Nextcloud on Linode, or...?

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Post by hypertoast »

alex_sf wrote: post #148
miedpo wrote: post #36

Hey, So I would probably avoid Amazon just because many of their services charge for data out. It isn't out, but it's a variable for you, and you probaly want something that's flat per month. Cheapest you are going to get with somewhat reliable service is either going to be Hetzner or BuyVM. Hetzner is better for someone who doesn't want to tinker, BuyVM for those who do (BuyVM is a little less reliable, but you can…

I've been doing email related things for 15 years. Do not host your own email.

Recently, a shared hosting company where I had the emails went off-the-grid in a puff. I know I should have taken backups, but, it seems trivial that why would a company just shut off the servers/ stop responding if the service has been impeccable for last 5 years? This is another story.

So, what can I do to just keep a backup of all my emails (one @gmail.com and other personal website emails)?

Maybe for me, just having those emails accessible somewhere is more important (other than primary source/ provider)

Thanks

Re: Ask HN: Self-hosting in 2023: Nextcloud on Linode, or...?

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Post by zvr »

Volundr wrote: post #222
onnyyonn wrote: post #212

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Do they allow installing any Nextcloud app of your choice? I could not find that information.

Yep it works! Obviously if the app requires specific software installed on the server it may or may not have what you need, but I've installed several apps including the Music app, and use mine as a Subsonic server.

May I ask for three specific apps? Contacts, DAVx5, and Memories.

Re: Ask HN: Self-hosting in 2023: Nextcloud on Linode, or...?

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Post by tra3 »

epalm wrote: post #182
tra3 wrote: post #141

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Sometimes Dropbox does, but mostly it seems to figure it out. Sync thing on the other hand creates a conflict almost always.

I’ve never used syncthing, when you say it “creates a conflict”, does that mean the same file copy mechanism as Dropbox?

There are various strategies you can choose. If you mean creating a copy of the file with the conflict then yup.

Re: Ask HN: Self-hosting in 2023: Nextcloud on Linode, or...?

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Post by alex_sf »

jesterson wrote: post #227
alex_sf wrote: post #148

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I've been doing email related things for 15 years. Do not host your own email.

Worst advise. If you are incapable (no offence) to set up your own email server, doesn't mean anyone else should avoid doing it. Source: Having own email server for 17 years. Absolutely happy with it. Again, that doesn't mean everyone should do it, but I'd abstain from advices like you should not! or should do same.

I'm perfectly capable, as is the vast majority of even passing readers of HN. If you think that the hard part is setting up the mail server, you're exactly the type of person that should _not_ be hosting it yourself. The problem is, and always has been, deliverability.

Re: Ask HN: Self-hosting in 2023: Nextcloud on Linode, or...?

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Post by dizhn »

ipaddr wrote: post #187
dizhn wrote: post #127

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You can during the 30 days trial and if you get caught with overage after the trial is iver they are supposed to terminate your existing vms. I don't know the particulars of it though.

Don't use any 30 day free trial and expect it available on 31.

While you're in the trial it is not super obvios what's always free and what's not. (I have a summary of it somewhere if anybody is interested.) There's also the problem of what to kill from the point of view of Oracle. You have VMs and you're over the limit on day 31. Which VM are they supposed to kill? I think they might be killing everything.

Re: Ask HN: Self-hosting in 2023: Nextcloud on Linode, or...?

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Post by jesterson »

alex_sf wrote: post #238
jesterson wrote: post #227

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Worst advise. If you are incapable (no offence) to set up your own email server, doesn't mean anyone else should avoid doing it. Source: Having own email server for 17 years. Absolutely happy with it. Again, that doesn't mean everyone should do it, but I'd abstain from advices like you should not! or should do same.

I'm perfectly capable, as is the vast majority of even passing readers of HN. If you think that the hard part is setting up the mail server, you're exactly the type of person that should _not_ be hosting it yourself. The problem is, and always has been, deliverability.

Deliverability _is_ a part of setting everything properly. Setting up mail is not juts installing exim and expecting everything will work by some magic and the manual online.

I do host mail for tens of domains and never had issues with deliverability.

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