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Re: Show HN: Automatisch – Open source workflow automation, an alternative to Zapier

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First thing I do when evaluating products: checking their imprint and data policy. I didn't find them. You guys are https://automat.berlin/contact/ , right? A GmbH. For credibility, legal, and fine reasons, get a product-specific imprint and data policy up and available as soon as possible.

Would you be able to share what common policies are for software projects or any examples?

google didn't return any hits

Re: Show HN: Automatisch – Open source workflow automation, an alternative to Zapier

#42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We spent some time to research about licenses. AGPL allows us to keep it open source and also build a business around it as you said.

Is technically open source the best kind of open source? It is open source according to the OSI, but many including myself are interested in open source for specific reasons that the AGPL doesn't satisfy.

Isn't the use of AGPL specifically to stop many including yourself's specific reasons? They want to build a business off it, not build your business off it.

If the license doesn't work for your use case, the license seems to have done its job successfully.

Re: Show HN: Automatisch – Open source workflow automation, an alternative to Zapier

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post #38

First thing I do when evaluating products: checking their imprint and data policy. I didn't find them. You guys are https://automat.berlin/contact/ , right? A GmbH. For credibility, legal, and fine reasons, get a product-specific imprint and data policy up and available as soon as possible.

Would you be able to share what common policies are for software projects or any examples? google didn't return any hits

I think op means the automatisch.io website doesn't seem to publish any imprint itself

Re: Show HN: Automatisch – Open source workflow automation, an alternative to Zapier

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post #38

First thing I do when evaluating products: checking their imprint and data policy. I didn't find them. You guys are https://automat.berlin/contact/ , right? A GmbH. For credibility, legal, and fine reasons, get a product-specific imprint and data policy up and available as soon as possible.

You look for the data policies before looking at the actual product? Why?

Re: Show HN: Automatisch – Open source workflow automation, an alternative to Zapier

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Thank you so much! We have actually put so much effort into developer experience, especially for building new integrations. You can check examples using oauth authentication: https://automatisch.io/docs/build-integrations/examples If you want to check out all documentation for building integrations, you can use this page: https://automatisch.io/docs/build-integrations/folder-struct... My suggestion would be that you…

Great stuff! FWIW I've been looking for a "some code" platform, that removes the overhead and plumbing requirements for automation, but still allows arbitrary code to run in the automations. Basically, I can code, but there are loads of things about web development I have no interest in or want to think about. What would be amazing to me would be a way in which APIs can be abstracted away and a low code API for vario…

Totally agree, we were looking for a similar “some code” approach. Automatisch and other no-code automation products (Zapier, n8n, etc) are awesome for non-technical users to automate simple tasks. We started building Workflows (http://retool.com/workflows) because we were looking for something faster than writing cron jobs/spinning up more infra. Products like Zapier, often times weren’t customizable enough without the ability to really write code or secure enough to connect to something like our production databases. Would love any feedback!

Re: Show HN: Automatisch – Open source workflow automation, an alternative to Zapier

#46
post #15

This looks very cool and I'm excited to try it out later today. In the past I've tried Huginn but I have always found Ruby to be particularly unapproachable and the first integration I tried was broken (the weather integration) and despite submitting a PR to fix it, the PR has languished for years. Here's some questions: - How does this differ from Huginn? - How easy is it to install integrations from outside the mai…

Thanks a lot! - It may not differ in the sense of integrations and general functionality. However, the most significant difference is that we aim not only for developers but also general users who may not have programming knowledge. - At the moment, it's only possible if we merge the integration into the source code, but we're thinking about possible ways to have external integrations and also private integrations. -…

How does the license factor into your business model? Sounds like you are going for an open core model where the enterprise feature set is implemented by separate proprietary code addons?

Re: Show HN: Automatisch – Open source workflow automation, an alternative to Zapier

#47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We spent some time to research about licenses. AGPL allows us to keep it open source and also build a business around it as you said.

Is technically open source the best kind of open source? It is open source according to the OSI, but many including myself are interested in open source for specific reasons that the AGPL doesn't satisfy.

What can't you do with AGPL stuff that you want to do?

Re: Show HN: Automatisch – Open source workflow automation, an alternative to Zapier

#48
post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is technically open source the best kind of open source? It is open source according to the OSI, but many including myself are interested in open source for specific reasons that the AGPL doesn't satisfy.

Isn't the use of AGPL specifically to stop many including yourself's specific reasons? They want to build a business off it, not build your business off it. If the license doesn't work for your use case, the license seems to have done its job successfully.

The AGPL is for preserving software freedom in today's networked, service-as-a-software-substitute world. It isn't supposed to be for building a business.

Re: Show HN: Automatisch – Open source workflow automation, an alternative to Zapier

#49
post #44
post #38

First thing I do when evaluating products: checking their imprint and data policy. I didn't find them. You guys are https://automat.berlin/contact/ , right? A GmbH. For credibility, legal, and fine reasons, get a product-specific imprint and data policy up and available as soon as possible.

You look for the data policies before looking at the actual product? Why?

I check for them too. It’s a credibility signal if a proper ToS, privacy statement and imprint exist. If they don’t exist, it appears as if the creators have something to hide.

The regulatory requirements to build software are extremely low. If someone can’t even comply with the basics, it’s a bad signal.

Re: Show HN: Automatisch – Open source workflow automation, an alternative to Zapier

#50

I currently use n8n, but always great to see more alternatives in this space. One thing that has surprised me is that no one has tried to standardize on the Zapier or IFTTT APIs / SDK implementation to allow for faster deployment of integrations. Seems like there could be a movement here that is akin to how many services use S3 compatible APIs.

It's because they are dozen of those automation clicky things each slightly different and with slightly different featureset that fits this or that workflow better.
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