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Re: Amazon acquires 400 acres near new Intel development in Ohio

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Post by renewedrebecca »

doublerabbit wrote: post #41
LarryMullins wrote: post #38

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Because people live there? Nah forget it, evacuate the whole state and let nature take over under the unbounded logic of "why not more." 400 acres is basically nothing compared to the scale of an entire state. It's less than a single square mile. Ohio has more than 40,000 square miles.

> 400 acres is basically nothing It's still something. 400 trees are still better then 1. It's more than you and I will ever own. It's lot of land which could provide so much resource we desperately need. For good rather than evil. 1 acre ~ 4848 trees - That's a lot of trees. 4848 squirrels if each squirrel had a tree each, 4848 birds. So lets complain about the worlds state while we continue to suck resources for co…

You are not forced to be connected to the network.

Re: Amazon acquires 400 acres near new Intel development in Ohio

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Post by ericmay »

klyrs wrote: post #103
gonzo41 wrote: post #95

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Wiping out that wetland may be a big mistake. Wetlands flood. I hope they had a climate change updated 1:100 year flood study done. Oh well. I would suggest you consider making it painfull for them and trying to extract the highest price from them as you can. If it really is as inevitable as you say. All the best.

1:100 is nothing these days. The initial alarm bells over "global warming" didn't have access to the computational resources we have today and focused on average global temperature. We're seeing 1:1000 events downright frequently these days because the planet hasn't seen conditions like this in a very long time and our statistical models have a hundred years of lag built-in. I do hope they get their engineering right…

Central Ohio isn’t. Every year we pretty much just get “tornado formed somewhere” and maybe a trail or or building gets knocked down. Not to say something can’t happen but it’s not very often compared to the plains and south.

Re: Amazon acquires 400 acres near new Intel development in Ohio

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Post by roarcher »

rotten wrote: post #104
roarcher wrote: post #74

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Many of us are high tech remote workers who enjoy the peace and quiet and open space.

I have a similar situation--I live in a small town 45 minutes from a large city, surrounded by farmland. Aside from the farmers, most of the people here work either remotely or in the city, and choose to live here because it's quiet and not full of, ironically, drug addicts like the city.

But we're not looking down our noses from high rise Silicon Valley condos, so I guess we're all a bunch of unwashed degenerates.

Re: Amazon acquires 400 acres near new Intel development in Ohio

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Post by notatoad »

jgwil2 wrote: post #82
rotten wrote: post #34

I live next to where this is going in (walking distance). We already have a huge Google Data Center, One of the Ohio-east region availability zones. A Meta data center and office park, and a dbt data center under construction all within a short radius. We also have a vitamin factory being built, we have a large Amazon Fulfillment center, an R&D lab for a perfume company, and an R&D lab for plastics packaging. All of…

It would be nice if they could do some of this development in a sustainable way, like encouraging walkable, mixed-use neighborhoods with reasonable density, but unfortunately based on the language in your comment (highways, big box stores) it sounds like yet another car-dependent, sprawling suburb.

datacentres are not a good fit for walkable, mixed-use development. they don't really serve people, they don't add value to a neighbourhood for the residents. the best way to make walkable mixed-use neighbourhoods with reasonable density is to shove the uses that don't fit within that style out to the edge of the city, which seems to be exactly what they're doing here.

Re: Amazon acquires 400 acres near new Intel development in Ohio

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Post by klyrs »

ericmay wrote: post #112
klyrs wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1:100 is nothing these days. The initial alarm bells over "global warming" didn't have access to the computational resources we have today and focused on average global temperature. We're seeing 1:1000 events downright frequently these days because the planet hasn't seen conditions like this in a very long time and our statistical models have a hundred years of lag built-in. I do hope they get their engineering right…

Central Ohio isn’t. Every year we pretty much just get “tornado formed somewhere” and maybe a trail or or building gets knocked down. Not to say something can’t happen but it’s not very often compared to the plains and south.

Thanks, I'm a west coast gal, the mountains protect us from such concerns and too much horizon makes me nervous...

Re: Amazon acquires 400 acres near new Intel development in Ohio

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Post by defrost »

roarcher wrote: post #113
rotten wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many of us are high tech remote workers who enjoy the peace and quiet and open space.

I have a similar situation--I live in a small town 45 minutes from a large city, surrounded by farmland. Aside from the farmers, most of the people here work either remotely or in the city, and choose to live here because it's quiet and not full of, ironically, drug addicts like the city. But we're not looking down our noses from high rise Silicon Valley condos, so I guess we're all a bunch of unwashed degenerates.

I live (mostly) a good hour and a half away from the capital city in a state three times larger than Texas, the state pop. is a bit above 2 million and the urban population (one capital city with extensive sprawl, several very large towns) is also a bit under 2 million.

The very few hundred thousand or so that have the bulk of the space to ourselves are extremely happy to keep it "undeveloped", outside of agriculture, forest work, and mining sites with most (and all new ones) having strict controls about rehabilition .. in keeping with traditional land holders with some 70K years of history invested here.

Re: Amazon acquires 400 acres near new Intel development in Ohio

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Post by roarcher »

defrost wrote: post #116
roarcher wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a similar situation--I live in a small town 45 minutes from a large city, surrounded by farmland. Aside from the farmers, most of the people here work either remotely or in the city, and choose to live here because it's quiet and not full of, ironically, drug addicts like the city. But we're not looking down our noses from high rise Silicon Valley condos, so I guess we're all a bunch of unwashed degenerates.

I live (mostly) a good hour and a half away from the capital city in a state three times larger than Texas, the state pop. is a bit above 2 million and the urban population (one capital city with extensive sprawl, several very large towns) is also a bit under 2 million. The very few hundred thousand or so that have the bulk of the space to ourselves are extremely happy to keep it "undeveloped", outside of agriculture…

Sounds like a dream. It took me nearly ten years to find stable enough remote work to escape the city, but damn was it ever worth it.

Re: Amazon acquires 400 acres near new Intel development in Ohio

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Post by defrost »

roarcher wrote: post #117
defrost wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I live (mostly) a good hour and a half away from the capital city in a state three times larger than Texas, the state pop. is a bit above 2 million and the urban population (one capital city with extensive sprawl, several very large towns) is also a bit under 2 million. The very few hundred thousand or so that have the bulk of the space to ourselves are extremely happy to keep it "undeveloped", outside of agriculture…

Sounds like a dream. It took me nearly ten years to find stable enough remote work to escape the city, but damn was it ever worth it.

I've heard of cities - I did my STEM degrees in "the most remote city in the world" (according to some early US astronauts astounded to see light in the darkness) and went on to write a few million SLOC in earth mapping and signal processing while doing geophysical field work (and WGS84 "ground truthing") across ~ two thirds of the 190+ countries across the globe - but rarely ever in cities.

It's odd to realise we've transitioned (as a species) from %50 within the past 40 or so years.

Re: Amazon acquires 400 acres near new Intel development in Ohio

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Post by zahma »

rotten wrote: post #34

I live next to where this is going in (walking distance). We already have a huge Google Data Center, One of the Ohio-east region availability zones. A Meta data center and office park, and a dbt data center under construction all within a short radius. We also have a vitamin factory being built, we have a large Amazon Fulfillment center, an R&D lab for a perfume company, and an R&D lab for plastics packaging. All of…

Thanks for posting this. I’m sorry to hear about what all this “progress” might cost you personally in addition to the habitats around you. I don’t believe we have the right to cut down trees older than we are. It appears I’m in the minority in this country.

Something similar happened to my partner’s grandmother’s place in rural France in a matter of years.

My partner grew up in her grandparent’s backyard that was loaded with a garden, fields, and animals. They had no neighbors within sight. Slowly all around them new commercial developments cropped up. The equivalent of a Lowe’s or Super Target, different bricks and mortar, and the like. The nail in the coffin was the McDonald’s adjacent to their property, probably the same field where my spouse used to roll in the dirt. Now the house has been converted to an optician storefront. The area was re-zoned with no appreciation for the inhabitants. I suppose it had to go somewhere, but why does the march of “progress” have the familiar feeling of tragedy?

Her grandparents were immigrants of the Spanish Civil War, and this property epitomized their grit and triumph. To see it today, it is haunted and sad. It is unimaginable that a family ever lived there.

I wish I could offer you hope, but the only solace in this tragedy of so-called progress is the conservation easement. Plant some trees for me, and good luck to you.

Re: Amazon acquires 400 acres near new Intel development in Ohio

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Post by stjohnswarts »

makestuff wrote: post #47
tester756 wrote: post #5

Is Ohio becoming tech heartland?

I thought Chicago/Illinois had a good shot at becoming the midwest tech hub, but Ohio seems to be making a good run at it. Don't get me wrong Chicago has tech companies, but Columbus is making some major gains there.

Which is a shame since Chicago is a great city and Illinois is a blue state that has a much better history with individual rights (outside of guns). I think that's something that younger tech workers really want in a place they plan on being in for a while.
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