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OP. How did you figure out "this idea will make me money for sure if I continue to work on it"
What is your tech stack that let's you build project and sell.
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I'd assume a few thousand for servers + softwares, but yah.. it's close enough to $0 you can usually tell if it's profitable. Unlike something like e-commerce where 100k in monthly sales could be... 0 profit, or 70k in profit.
Unless it's a data-intensive service, the servers+software costs are under a few hundreds. Source: I sell self-hosted software, my costs are mostly the domain names and a few $5/mo servers.
I run a SaaS and spend a few thousand per month for my hardware and software. And I wouldn’t want to spend any less and reduce my footprint,
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Unless it's a data-intensive service, the servers+software costs are under a few hundreds. Source: I sell self-hosted software, my costs are mostly the domain names and a few $5/mo servers.
Cool. Glad you took the time to correct me. I run a SaaS and spend a few thousand per month for my hardware and software. And I wouldn’t want to spend any less and reduce my footprint,
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Unless it's a data-intensive service, the servers+software costs are under a few hundreds. Source: I sell self-hosted software, my costs are mostly the domain names and a few $5/mo servers.
Cool. Glad you took the time to correct me. I run a SaaS and spend a few thousand per month for my hardware and software. And I wouldn’t want to spend any less and reduce my footprint,
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Cool. Glad you took the time to correct me. I run a SaaS and spend a few thousand per month for my hardware and software. And I wouldn’t want to spend any less and reduce my footprint,
why do you have to spend a few thousand?
Zendesk alone is over 1k. You can use a fake help desk software for half, but is it worth screwing with the bugs?
My CPU load is something like 200 CPUs 24/7, and needs to be fault tolerant on top of that. Also needs to run without a sysadmin on my side.
Congrats! On a related note, can someone on HN can educate me on why MRR is the primary metric? MRR doesn't tell you if the startup is profitable, which is presumably the goal - to make money. If your costs are $3M/month, an MRR of $100K sounds like a terrible deal. Wouldn't it make more sense to report profits?
Generally agree with the sentiment, but here is likely why we continue to talk about MRR. 1. It's likely inherited from how investors look at startups. They are just focused on growth more than profitability. 2. In the US there are tax advantages to running costs through the business so these costs might be inflated and profit artificially reduced.
Congrats! On a related note, can someone on HN can educate me on why MRR is the primary metric? MRR doesn't tell you if the startup is profitable, which is presumably the goal - to make money. If your costs are $3M/month, an MRR of $100K sounds like a terrible deal. Wouldn't it make more sense to report profits?
Revenue/cost = profit margin.
There's usually three ways to increase profit margin: economics of scale (sell more units), economy of scope (sell more to the same customers), or innovation (lower cost/increase prices)
All these three are usually linked to revenue in some way. 3 customers and 3000 customers may be roughly the same hosting cost. If you can sell someone a $100 item, you can sell them a $1000 plan later or simply a $1 item for very little marketing fees. Or if you're outsourcing something that could be built in house, it makes sense to hire a team to build and maintain that process once the cost gets high enough to justify new hires.
The other more common answer is revenue is hard to manipulate, while profits are very easy. Buy and furnish a new office and then your cost suddenly hits $3m that month.
Anyone who takes any kind of venture capital is expected to have negative profits. They can hire contractors, outsource social media marketing to agencies, outsource hiring contractors to agencies, and so on. Uber used to buy cars and then sell them to their drivers, to get more drivers. Grab gave out free phones so taxi drivers could download the app.
Startups aren't about profits, they're about growing an asset as fast as possible and then selling it off to someone who can utilize same asset for higher value. e.g. YouTube and WhatsApp don't bring in money themselves, but work very well into Google and Meta strategically.
It's also common to seed "marketing cost" into unsustainable coupons/discounts and such. That's unhealtht revenue, but it's also why unit economics (the cost of one unit sale) is another metric. Turns out it's bloody difficult to fix unit economics. But this is why people check that unit economics are positive and then read MRR.
This is similar to Zapier, right? What is the value add? Just trying to understand the market a bit better.
Congrats! On a related note, can someone on HN can educate me on why MRR is the primary metric? MRR doesn't tell you if the startup is profitable, which is presumably the goal - to make money. If your costs are $3M/month, an MRR of $100K sounds like a terrible deal. Wouldn't it make more sense to report profits?