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I am open to taking a bet with you. How about 1-2k?
If someone says they're not informed on an issue, do you think they're eager to make thousand dollar bets one way or the other?
The key to the success of Rick and Morty is that it's a very subversive show, sometimes to the point of being disturbing. Its embrace of comedic nihilism undermines classic sitcom tropes in much the way The Simpsons did when it was new. I always got the impression that this stemmed in no small part from Justin Roiland. It's not exactly a surprise that someone with so little regard for social convention turned out to…
I would say it's more a deconstruction of fiction, generally, rather than subversion of sitcoms. Most plots are decidedly non-sitcommy. I would also say Dan Harmon's previous work on Community is so filled to the brim with meta-analyses, parodies, homages, and self reflection that it's probably more him than Justin on the writing side. I'd ALSO say that I don't think Rick and Morty suggests Rick's behaviors or belief…
I wouldn't say they're praiseworthy, but - and forgive me for any ignorance here - it's often felt like a strong, vocal portion of the show's/Rick's fanbase comes from this type of person.
What happened to ‘innocent until proven guilty’? Are mere allegations enough to lose your job?
Anybody with a brain who listened to GVP must immediately believe the leaked texts are real.
It's just... "oh, he wasn't really joking about that. He meant that bit. Huh. Gross."
I assume that somebody pointed the Adult Swim executives to certain clips and they had no choice but to act.
The key to the success of Rick and Morty is that it's a very subversive show, sometimes to the point of being disturbing. Its embrace of comedic nihilism undermines classic sitcom tropes in much the way The Simpsons did when it was new. I always got the impression that this stemmed in no small part from Justin Roiland. It's not exactly a surprise that someone with so little regard for social convention turned out to…
Did he, though? Accusations are not evidence.
I think it is universally a mistake to read accusations by the criminal justice system uncritically, given what we know about their incentives.
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I would say it's more a deconstruction of fiction, generally, rather than subversion of sitcoms. Most plots are decidedly non-sitcommy. I would also say Dan Harmon's previous work on Community is so filled to the brim with meta-analyses, parodies, homages, and self reflection that it's probably more him than Justin on the writing side. I'd ALSO say that I don't think Rick and Morty suggests Rick's behaviors or belief…
>I'd ALSO say that I don't think Rick and Morty suggests Rick's behaviors or beliefs are praiseworthy. The dude is super depressed and toxic. I wouldn't say they're praiseworthy, but - and forgive me for any ignorance here - it's often felt like a strong, vocal portion of the show's/Rick's fanbase comes from this type of person.
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I'm not sure if this is meant to be sarcastic (I'm not familiar with Million Dollar Extreme ), but in any case I want to draw attention to a particular piece of subversion that encapsulates everything good and bad about Rick and Morty. (Spoilers) In the very first season, there's an episode where Rick reluctantly helps Morty attract his crush with a "love potion". Now this is obviously messed up, but it's a classic t…
> It was making a very clear statement that in the RIck and Morty universe, normal dramatic tropes don't apply. How does it not apply when Morty is traumatised by the experience? The show doesn't hide the fact that Rick is traumatised (by all of the experiences they had been to) either, he's just better at hiding it.
Your usual sitcom the heroes are infallible and get at most a slip on the wrist. Here the narrator is saying, this anti hero is so bad he could literally destroy the whole world. He can't undo his mistakes because some mistakes are beyond even his abilities to undo.
We're resetting the situation because that's what sitcoms have to do, but it's the opposite of a happy ending. That's the message I got at least. Similar to the vat of acid episode. That actions have consequences and not all mistakes can be corrected.
It's actually the normal sitcom heroes that get away with everything by virtue of plot armor or plot ingenuity, while Rick and Morty cynically reset it because the show must go on, while hinting strongly that this is the only reason it's allowed and consequences were as real as they could be.
I'll never forgive adult swim for cancelling venture bros.
Nothing matters in Rick and Morty because they can always hop to another universe (as that universe's Rick and Morty die) and pick up where they left off. Similarly, Venture Bros nothing matters cause everyone can be cloned and fixed even if they die.
But somehow, Venture Bros hits my funny bone way harder.
The key to the success of Rick and Morty is that it's a very subversive show, sometimes to the point of being disturbing. Its embrace of comedic nihilism undermines classic sitcom tropes in much the way The Simpsons did when it was new. I always got the impression that this stemmed in no small part from Justin Roiland. It's not exactly a surprise that someone with so little regard for social convention turned out to…
I would say it's more a deconstruction of fiction, generally, rather than subversion of sitcoms. Most plots are decidedly non-sitcommy. I would also say Dan Harmon's previous work on Community is so filled to the brim with meta-analyses, parodies, homages, and self reflection that it's probably more him than Justin on the writing side. I'd ALSO say that I don't think Rick and Morty suggests Rick's behaviors or belief…
Another example of the subversion that reinforces this "truth = negativity" moral:
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The episode where they're trapped in the house with shapeshifting memory-modifying aliens pretending to be loved family members. Traditionally you would expect such a problem to be resolved through the power of love, or some other positive quality that bonds the family in a way the aliens can't fake. Rick and Morty inverts it and the problem is solved through the power of resentment. The message is clear - reality is ugly and messy and painful, and "love" is a powerful illusion created to fill a biological purpose, and you should be suspicious of it if you want to act rationally, which you should. Admittedly, the Mr Poopybutthole denouement partially redeems the episode by subverting its own point and cautioning against taking it too far, but the same message crops up too often in Rick and Morty to be ignored.