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Re: Show HN: I “wrote” a kid's book with ChatGPT and Midjourney

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Post by scrollaway »

legutierr wrote: post #207
scrollaway wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Be real, copyright/attribution is only one complaint, a tiny part of the sudden hatred against AI art/creativity. When somebody brings up the invention of photoshop, they're not trying to disprove a point about paying salaries to the devs, and I am sure you knew that.

No, your perspective on this is all wrong. The outrage about AI art is not about how it empowers its users. Rather, the problem is that these systems only exists today because of the involuntary contributions of the very same people who are likely to be put out of business. It really is about the how the contributors to these systems are being treated. The coders that contributed to Photoshop are analogous to the art…

So, my perspective on this is all wrong, despite the fact that the original poster wrote, pretty damn specifically, "Automating creativity is so gross. Never mind the fact that these models are trained on stolen artwork and texts."

That's it, that's the entire post. Never mind the "stolen artwork" argument, you still have people upset about "automating creativity".

So, like I said, it's one part of it.

Re: Show HN: I “wrote” a kid's book with ChatGPT and Midjourney

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Post by zengineer »

linusekenstam wrote: post #144

Hello Daniel! We've been working on a platform/tool for this since September. And it's live in Alpha right now, https://bedtimestory.ai We are working on a lot of feature requests and improvements at the moment, and distribution. Text, Audio and Video being the primary use-cases. Making stories 100% editable and upload your own images is also in the works. We are working on "Magic Images" that will allow you to inser…

Very cool and great start!

I tried it and I wonder how I could generate more images. I made a story and only had one image.

I would also love to print it out as a book (don't see myself reading a book to a kid on a laptop / tablet) and that every page would have an image. Would also be good if I could define which content should be represented as an image.

Keep up the great work!

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Post by rchaud »

Nice idea, probably not long before people start doing this to self-publish "fiction" to clog up Amazon and Wattpad further.

Sidenote: Why does Stable Diffusion/Midjourney/Dall-E all generate animal/cartoon art that looks like a Disney/Pixar ripoff? It's worse than the generic "Corporate Memphis" art style that every company uses for their marketing websites.

Re: Show HN: I “wrote” a kid's book with ChatGPT and Midjourney

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Post by laurentlb »

weeksie wrote: post #249

A fun experiment but LLM generated stories will never escape the uncanny valley, because they're not novel, they're remixes. I know the critique of that position is "but humans just remix the things they know from the world" but that is the same misunderstanding that those who thought truck driving jobs would be automated by 2018 made about that profession. i.e. The less you know about a field, the more likely you ar…

> they're not novel, they're remixes.

I think it depends on how you use it. If you write a one-line prompt, you'll get a "generic" result. With more guidance, you can get something much more personal. For example, you could imagine a story and let ChatGPT pick the actual words.

At the end, you can put an arbitrary amount of work to get a generated story. You can treat ChatGPT as a co-author who will help you do the parts you want (e.g. find ideas, find text structure, write the actual sentences). The end result depends on how much work you want to do yourself.

Re: Show HN: I “wrote” a kid's book with ChatGPT and Midjourney

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Post by jkepler »

Jataman606 wrote: post #216
social_quotient wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't take this as a trolling question, but I can't help but wonder if this sentiment towards AI generated art and creativity is similar to how a chef might feel about shrink wrapped frozen food factories. Just like how a frozen meal can be thrown in the microwave and still be considered a meal, AI generated art can still be considered creative and beautiful. But, as we all know, the timing and execution to properly…

Food is essential to our survival. No matter how much effort you put into making food, you have to make something to eat or you buy food that is cooked by someone else. So making it more accessible for people who don't have time, money or necessary skills has completely no downsides. Art is just something we do and consume for fun. We don't need to make art more efficient, because there is already too much art to con…

Art is more necessary to survival than one might think. Consider the "Quartet for the End of Time,[1] an eight-movement piece of chamber music by the French composer Olivier Messiaen, written and first performed while he was a Nazi prisoner of war in 1941. And even when it comes to food, eating well involves creativity: arranging textures, colors, nutrition, etc. The French speak of l'art de la table, or the art of a well-served meal that encourages conviviality and conversation.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quatuor_pour_la_fin_du_temps

Re: Show HN: I “wrote” a kid's book with ChatGPT and Midjourney

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Post by snhly »

the_af wrote: post #221

As an experiment, this is cool. As actual usage? I enjoy making stories up (or misremembering existing ones) for my daughter. The human touch is valuable to me. I also wonder: many well-loved stories of today started as a story the writer was telling his/her children; one example is The Hobbit. What if Tolkien had thought "screw this, I'm overworked and tired, I'll just type some prompt for ChatGPT and it will be eno…

It is vaguely dystopian, true, but one thing I remember in order to sleep at night is that ChatGPT and the like are trained on human-written text. So we might currently be looking at ChatGPT at its very best, or close to its very best. Reasoning: from here on out, the stuff it trains on will be polluted with the automatically generated text. Photo copies of photo copies eventually lead to blurrier and crummier images of the real thing.

We can keep paying people to come up with optimisations to the algorithm itself, keep paying annotators to manually pepper human common sense into the system, but it's my theory that these payments won't keep up with the spread of automatically generated content in the source dataset and the negative impact that has on the language model that the algorithm outputs.

ChatGPT currently enshrines insight and style from 2020-2021 (more-or-less indistinguishable from insight and style from 2022-2023), but now that the system exists, rather than observing a rapid pace of new writing styles and original insights emerging on the web of 2024, we'll potentially see a slightly slower style/original insights emergence rate, then the next year an even slower emergence rate. This will continue until it reaches a stage where the spoken world of language and world wide web world of language have completely diverged, similar to the way 1950s film dialogue bore little resemblance to 1950s speaking styles.

Short-term, ChatGPT has called creative pursuits into question, but long term, I think such systems will strongly validate creative pursuits, and only really replace non-creative roles. By turning the web into a wasteland of written cruft, GPT will validate the need for human flourishes, error, divergences from the norm and the arbitrary rewriting of unspoken rules. I think only a strong AI raised like us in our own societies could infuse that kind of culture into its writing, but the process of developing such an AI would basically just be a reinvention of slavery, and we probably don't have the resources here on earth to support it longterm anyway.

Re: Show HN: I “wrote” a kid's book with ChatGPT and Midjourney

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Post by teolandon »

AvAn12 wrote: post #240

It's almost like the "I" should be in quotes. Because if anyone else in the world gave ChatGPT the same prompts, they would get more-or-less the same story. (visual generative AI is different). I think this makes things like college essay generation less scary. If two students prompt ChatGPT with "write a personal statement for the common application for college" or whatever, ChatGPT will more-or-less produce the sam…

You could say the same about a person performing a piano piece. Anyone who presses the same keys in the same sequence would get more-or-less the same performance.

Re: Show HN: I “wrote” a kid's book with ChatGPT and Midjourney

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Post by linusekenstam »

zengineer wrote: post #252
linusekenstam wrote: post #144

Hello Daniel! We've been working on a platform/tool for this since September. And it's live in Alpha right now, https://bedtimestory.ai We are working on a lot of feature requests and improvements at the moment, and distribution. Text, Audio and Video being the primary use-cases. Making stories 100% editable and upload your own images is also in the works. We are working on "Magic Images" that will allow you to inser…

Very cool and great start! I tried it and I wonder how I could generate more images. I made a story and only had one image. I would also love to print it out as a book (don't see myself reading a book to a kid on a laptop / tablet) and that every page would have an image. Would also be good if I could define which content should be represented as an image. Keep up the great work!

Hey!

free stories only offers 1 image, and paid accounts you'll get 5 images per story. We are working on full Edit an upload images capabilites. https://twitter.com/LinusEkenstam/status/1617997909508902913

Paid accounts can also re-generate images using their own prompts for images.

So we are working on distribution, printed books, e-books, audio and video. It's all coming in the next few weeks.

Thank you for the kind comment!

Re: Show HN: I “wrote” a kid's book with ChatGPT and Midjourney

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Post by linusekenstam »

newswasboring wrote: post #165
linusekenstam wrote: post #144

Hello Daniel! We've been working on a platform/tool for this since September. And it's live in Alpha right now, https://bedtimestory.ai We are working on a lot of feature requests and improvements at the moment, and distribution. Text, Audio and Video being the primary use-cases. Making stories 100% editable and upload your own images is also in the works. We are working on "Magic Images" that will allow you to inser…

Did I miss it somewhere or you don't actually make physical copies for these? I would love that; I know the perfect people to gift that subscription to. Let them generate a few stories and maybe once per month select a book to get printed and delivered. This is a genuinely exciting product.

We are working on print as an option, so you can make a collection and each month you get physical books at your doorstep!

Thank you! follow us on twitter to stay up to date, https://twitter.com/bedtimestoryAI

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