Justin Roiland dropped from Rick and Morty after domestic abuse charges
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Re: Justin Roiland dropped from Rick and Morty after domestic abuse charges
#2It's really because he sent so many chains of creepy, solicitous messages to 15-16 year old fans who flirted with him.
Re: Justin Roiland dropped from Rick and Morty after domestic abuse charges
#3Why cant normal people not produce something that is entertaining?
And why can they not quit ostracizing the freak-show, they produce en mass to entertain them.
Why can the social cripples not dance in the limelight and then die out of sight, out of mind?
Well, Dan Harmon got a prolonged vacation to and they needed him back, so here we go. The usual "He is checking" in routine, which is actually just some acting coaching, were the maimed learn to keep it in the closet. A interesting discussion about origin, healthy handling of the problems and solving them permanently, is to much to ask.
Re: Justin Roiland dropped from Rick and Morty after domestic abuse charges
#4What happened to ‘innocent until proven guilty’?
Are mere allegations enough to lose your job?
Re: Justin Roiland dropped from Rick and Morty after domestic abuse charges
#5The key to the success of Rick and Morty is that it's a very subversive show, sometimes to the point of being disturbing. Its embrace of comedic nihilism undermines classic sitcom tropes in much the way The Simpsons did when it was new. I always got the impression that this stemmed in no small part from Justin Roiland. It's not exactly a surprise that someone with so little regard for social convention turned out to have untenable personal attributes, but I wonder if Rick and Morty will continue to have "bite" without him.
That said, if it also results in the exorcism of Rick and Morty's more toxic subtexts ("it's fine to be an asshole if you're smart" and "most people are dull and provincial and their concerns deserve ridicule"), it's probably a net win. We shall see.
Re: Justin Roiland dropped from Rick and Morty after domestic abuse charges
#6What happened to ‘innocent until proven guilty’? Are mere allegations enough to lose your job?
>What happened to ‘innocent until proven guilty’?
We don't know what internal conversations looked like at Adult Swim. We don't know if, or of not, they are aware of anything else that may have happened that encouraged them to make this decision. I'm not saying anything did - the point is, we don't know their reasoning, but we should assume that the decision wasn't made lightly.
Re: Justin Roiland dropped from Rick and Morty after domestic abuse charges
#7The key to the success of Rick and Morty is that it's a very subversive show, sometimes to the point of being disturbing. Its embrace of comedic nihilism undermines classic sitcom tropes in much the way The Simpsons did when it was new. I always got the impression that this stemmed in no small part from Justin Roiland. It's not exactly a surprise that someone with so little regard for social convention turned out to…
>it's a very subversive show
Very subversive. We're talking Million Dollar Extreme levels! (Wait, no; then it'd be canceled already.)
Re: Justin Roiland dropped from Rick and Morty after domestic abuse charges
#8I don't think he's replaceable. It's like house of cards without Kevin Spacey. Actually even worse, one of the best episodes was an episode completely voiced by Justin, of an entire society, and he managed to play so many different personalities of the same character. Never seen this level of voice acting.
It was pretty obvious that he's got issues. Had a scene where a writer literally confesses that he has bad tendencies and channels it all into his work (the gazorpazorp episode).
It's kind of sad that society and cancel culture don't allow bad people to do good things. If those were workplace allegations you really can't let someone like that work, but that's not the case.
I'm all in favor of him both losing most of his money to compensate his victims and continuing to work on Rick and Morty. But society can't handle nuance, and the mob judges people instead of actions. Literally nothing good happened as a result of this cancellation. Just blind mob justice.
People aren't black and white, bad people can do some good things and everyone sins. He deserves a punishment fitting his crime, and the purpose of the punishment isn't vengeance. If an action is good there's nothing morally wrong with letting a bad person do it.
Re: Justin Roiland dropped from Rick and Morty after domestic abuse charges
#9It's really because he sent so many chains of creepy, solicitous messages to 15-16 year old fans who flirted with him.
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Re: Justin Roiland dropped from Rick and Morty after domestic abuse charges
#10What happened to ‘innocent until proven guilty’? Are mere allegations enough to lose your job?
That was my thought. I’m really out of the loop on this story, but it’s going to be awkward if he’s proven innocent.