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Evidence that Adani Group has engaged in stock manipulation and accounting fraud

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Re: Evidence that Adani Group has engaged in stock manipulation and accounting fraud

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> Initial Disclosure: After extensive research, we have taken a short position in Adani Group Companies

idk, should I also take one?

Given that we're reading this, it's probably priced in by now. But in principle the answer would be yes, but only with money you can afford to lose; any investment on a single-name stock is risky, and shorting is even more so.

Re: Evidence that Adani Group has engaged in stock manipulation and accounting fraud

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is pretty much what Hindenburg does; they find frauds and short them. Peruse their site. I mean, it’s in the name, you know, like the dirigible. https://hindenburgresearch.com/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindenburg_disaster

I thought it was named after the former German field marshal and president.

Transitively, in any case.

Re: Evidence that Adani Group has engaged in stock manipulation and accounting fraud

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These are the people that broke the “Nikola rolling a truck down a hill” story. https://hindenburgresearch.com/nikola/

That was quite a bit easier to digest, though. Can someone give me a more summarized version? I gave up after the ninth or tenth bullet item. Who's being defrauded and how?

Re: Evidence that Adani Group has engaged in stock manipulation and accounting fraud

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Wow. Adani is super scummy, and from research when they were starting construction on a big mine in Australia we knew they were structuring their tax affairs to not pay any tax here [1], but all this is something else.

They have been suing a climate activist here for millions of dollars, and as part of it they had private investigators following him, his wife, and his children, including photographing his children while they were alone on the way to and from school. They were “unapologetic” [2].

Although from what I read of Adani’s human rights abuses overseas (such as forcing native tribes off their lands to build mines and infrastructure, and complete disregard for the environmental effects of their operations poisoning nearby communities’ air and water/food sources) this is a tiny drop in the bucket of that company’s scummyness.

1. https://cdn.getup.org.au/2061-2059-The-Adani-Files.pdf

2. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/oct/28/private-inv...

Re: Evidence that Adani Group has engaged in stock manipulation and accounting fraud

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post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

idk, should I also take one?

Given that we're reading this, it's probably priced in by now. But in principle the answer would be yes, but only with money you can afford to lose; any investment on a single-name stock is risky, and shorting is even more so.

And it's shorting, so no cap on losses, right?

Re: Evidence that Adani Group has engaged in stock manipulation and accounting fraud

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post #23

This is reminiscent of the FTT/SRM debacle: 1. A highly illiquid asset that's mostly owned by the founder 2. Price manipulation to artificially inflate the asset price 3. Mark-to-market accounting to artificially inflate the market cap 4. Using the inflated market cap to justify borrowing billions in liquid assets 5. A downturn in the market and... the money's gone

For a second I thought you meant FTX, which also fits the bullets.

Re: Evidence that Adani Group has engaged in stock manipulation and accounting fraud

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today?

Yeah. Back in the day you needed forced labour and violent conquest to become rich. Becoming the richest in the world through something as benign as fraud is relatively new.

Tulip bubbles and pretending you had a slave run higly profitable African gold mine etc are hardly new.

Re: Evidence that Adani Group has engaged in stock manipulation and accounting fraud

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post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given that we're reading this, it's probably priced in by now. But in principle the answer would be yes, but only with money you can afford to lose; any investment on a single-name stock is risky, and shorting is even more so.

And it's shorting, so no cap on losses, right?

Right, that's part of why it's so risky.
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