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Some gut bacteria appear to communicate with the brain

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Re: Some gut bacteria appear to communicate with the brain

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For the folks that take probiotics: how did you decide what to take?

I’m taking L Reuteri mostly because I enjoy making yoghurt from it myself, and it tastes good. Also it’s anti H Pylori (the bacteria that causes ulcers), and I started taking it when I was worried I might be developing one https://examine.com/supplements/lactobacillus-reuteri/

You can buy this in the US as a product called BioGaia Gastrus. Chewable pills.

Re: Some gut bacteria appear to communicate with the brain

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I’m taking L Reuteri mostly because I enjoy making yoghurt from it myself, and it tastes good. Also it’s anti H Pylori (the bacteria that causes ulcers), and I started taking it when I was worried I might be developing one https://examine.com/supplements/lactobacillus-reuteri/

You can buy this in the US as a product called BioGaia Gastrus. Chewable pills.

Yes! I use those for my starter

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A nationstate could hack a competing nationstate by spiking food exports with brain fog causing microbes.

Isn’t the United States already doing this with McDonald’s and Coca Cola? /s

Wheat and corn /s

Re: Some gut bacteria appear to communicate with the brain

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Sounds less paid infomercial and a little closer to antivax from here if I'm honest. Did she at least tell the doctor "hey no worries my kid fixed it"? What did they say?

I guess the difference is that being an antivaxer can potentially harm society whereas trying a high fibre, probiotic rich diet can’t hurt anyone. And I completely understand the skepticism, which is why I couched my comment with “it may not work for everyone”. > Did she at least tell the doctor "hey no worries my kid fixed it"? What did they say? The answer is no: I told her not to tell her doctor under any circumst…

Be careful, autoimmune conditions can affect the stomach and present symptoms similar to IBS, GERD, including projectile vomiting after eating. I know because I had that for years, but it was cyclical. Every time I thought I had it beat due to (insert 10 things I was trying at the time) it would come back with vengeance. Eventually it just went away but by then I had no illusion that I had done anything.

Turns out it was Familial Mediterranean Fever and it just goes away in your early 20s. I was never diagnosed until many years later and I even thought a lot of my remedies maybe worked until then.

Digestive and autoimmune both are labyrinthine in potential problems and misdiagnoses.

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The challenge I think modern medicine has is that in order to prescribe a solution it does need to understand the problem and how your gut might be responsible for it. As we know the medical world takes time to adapt and so it takes more than just a few studies to require doctors and GP's to understand it, better yet be equipped to prescribe a solution. For many of these gut health related issues, I think most people…

I was part of genetics boom when sequencing dropped in price, and I thought that situations just like this were what the market was poised to capitalize on, sequencers in every doctors office or at least cheap enough and prolific enough that sequencing a micriobiome would give doctors data to work with. The sad reality is that many doctors are operating with what data scientists would reject as missing or bad data, t…

Genome wide association studies are expensive and take time. Forward and reverse genetics take money and time. PhDs need to be paid.

Honestly if you have a typical software engineer's salary and no dependents, just fund some studies yourself. Do them in South America or some other place with lower compliance requirements.

Re: Some gut bacteria appear to communicate with the brain

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What's the issues you've been facing, and why do you think it's a gut-brain issue?

Constipation, headaches, stress, bloating, anxiety, depression, fatigue, weight loss, hair loss, rashes. I don't know what the cause was, but the gut-brain theory fits all of my experience and treatments aimed at improving my gut bacteria helped the most, and there has definitely been a strong connection between how my gut is feeling and how my mind is feeling.

I assume you were tested for Celiac disease? Many doctors don't do the testing correctly, though - mainly that someone has to be eating gluten for weeks prior to the blood tests to avoid high risk of a false negative.

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You can buy this in the US as a product called BioGaia Gastrus. Chewable pills.

Yes! I use those for my starter

So the organisms aren’t half-dead after all, if your yogurt is a success. I always wonder how they can survive in a pill, on a shelf, for a year (expiration date is easily one year but I finish them in 30 days… but no idea date of manufacture so we can’t know how “old” the organisms are.

Re: Some gut bacteria appear to communicate with the brain

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Tim Spector seems like a good source on this stuff, I listened to some podcasts of his and he's doing some work here in the UK with Zoe, where they test you and figure out a nuturion plan for you based on your gut bacteria and what is best for you personally.

I can’t find his podcasts. What’s the title?

Re: Some gut bacteria appear to communicate with the brain

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I guess the difference is that being an antivaxer can potentially harm society whereas trying a high fibre, probiotic rich diet can’t hurt anyone. And I completely understand the skepticism, which is why I couched my comment with “it may not work for everyone”. > Did she at least tell the doctor "hey no worries my kid fixed it"? What did they say? The answer is no: I told her not to tell her doctor under any circumst…

Be careful, autoimmune conditions can affect the stomach and present symptoms similar to IBS, GERD, including projectile vomiting after eating. I know because I had that for years, but it was cyclical. Every time I thought I had it beat due to (insert 10 things I was trying at the time) it would come back with vengeance. Eventually it just went away but by then I had no illusion that I had done anything. Turns out it…

> Digestive and autoimmune both are labyrinthine in potential problems and misdiagnoses.

No argument there, and I appreciate the warning. It definitely gives me no pleasure playing doctor and I’m very conscious of the risk of giving misleading medical advice.

The reason why I’m confident enough to post this is that it has already been more than a year now since the major symptoms went away. The effect of the probiotics was/is pretty definitive (she recently stopped taking them for about a week while on vacation and the symptoms started slowly creeping back, and disappeared again shortly after resuming). Also, there is pretty much no real alternative treatment aside from PPIs or physical LES surgery anyway. If there is indeed an underlying autoimmune condition though, I can’t see how this diet could hurt too much. But maybe that’s due to ignorance.

I’m so happy you overcame that hell.

Re: Some gut bacteria appear to communicate with the brain

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That one exactly. Expensive as crap and hard to find in my country but it's priceless.

Edit: Do you take the one I linked, or this prescription grade extra strength? https://www.visbiome.com/collections/all/products/visbiome-e... ($6.2/day without insurance coverage) ----- Thanks! For anyone in Canada or USA wondering, I just searched and apparently you can buy it online now. About $2 a day: https://www.visbiome.com/collections/all/products/visbiome-c... I had looked years ago and found it hard to get.…

I'm sorry, but a probiotic that only lists the ingredients as "lactic acid bacteria"? For all you know this could be the equivalent of buying some Danone Activia. It also has "lactic acid bacteria".

I want at least the name of each of the bacteria. Even better would be exact substrains. But if it doesn't tell me whether the main ingredient is a strain that produces histamine (bad for me personally - lots of headaches) or doesn't, this is not going into me.

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