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Some gut bacteria appear to communicate with the brain

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Post by kryz »

unsupp0rted wrote: post #43
user1029384756 wrote: post #37

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Putting this out there in case it may help others: My mother suffered from GERD for years and years and about two years ago, her condition seemed to have taken a turn for the worse. We’re talking waking up in the middle of the night projectile vomiting. Constant heartburn, burping and indigestion after meals and daily constipation. The doctors were completely unable to help except to recommend antacids and possibly P…

What are the side-effects for PPIs? I've been taking them for almost 2 decades for GERD without anything too specific coming up. I check my B12 levels from time to time and they seem ok. My hemoglobin is always a bit low and iron supplements don't seem to help. What other things are common with long-term PPI use?

Higher concentrations of oral bacteria detected in the gut of people who use PPIs. That can’t be a good thing…

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Post by rosywoozlechan »

I believe it for anecdodal reasons. Since a few years ago I started eating vegetables and whole foods and greek yogurt, cottage cheese, my cravings for what foods I want to eat and what foods I like have changed so much. I can't stand the foods I used to love, and I love always having veggies now in my food. I'm always joking with my partner that my gut bacteria have mindcontrolled me and that I'm a zombie for my gut microbiome.

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Post by treeman79 »

yosito wrote: post #7

In the last three years, something related to my gut-brain connection got fucked. I'm not sure if it was some kind of post-viral inflammation causing stress, or stress of isolation causing inflammation. But it's definitely a two way street and mine got completely stuck in a feedback loop. The mainstream medical system failed to help me. Eventually some functional medicine doctors managed to help me improve via diet,…

Autoimmune conditions are the most common culprit. Doctors are horrible at diagnosing. Even if you have all the symptoms, family history, good response to treatment, and some positive tests.

Autoimmune protocol diet is amazing for resolving from food triggers.

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Post by treeman79 »

TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #21
valarauko wrote: post #14

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If you're experiencing an improvement, great. It seems reasonable that your gut issues (if nothing else) could be improved by addressing the gut biome. Since you've had some luck with traditional medicines, I can share my $0.02 about the traditional system I'm somewhat familiar with. In traditional Indian folk medicine, the focus for practically everything seems to revolve around improving gut health. It's a common b…

> like avoiding certain vegetables I've never heard of this. Western medicine says "all the vegetables, all the time". What are some of the vegetables people told to avoid? Genuinely curious.

Nightshades can increase inflammation. Tomatoes and Potatoes for example.

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Post by treeman79 »

kzrdude wrote: post #28
TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #21

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> like avoiding certain vegetables I've never heard of this. Western medicine says "all the vegetables, all the time". What are some of the vegetables people told to avoid? Genuinely curious.

Autoimmune Protocol diets commonly favour leafy greens a lot while telling you to avoid too starchy veg and everything in the potato-tomato family ("nightshades"). Very abbreviated it would be "eat green veg, fish and meat."

I did this when I was in constant horrific agony. Full body burning pain. Serious painkillers Just to not want to die.

Tried 100% only Chicken green veggies and sweet potatoes. A Month later I was out kayaking twice a week. No need for painkillers.

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Post by treeman79 »

thinkingemote wrote: post #33

I get gut pain sometimes, on a semi regular basis. The day before the pain hits I have mild-euphoria, clear thinking, positive outlook, lots of energy, more social and extravert. It's not normal. Something is going on with the brain and my gut. It's possible that it's endorphins being released to stop any pain ... but this is about 24 hours before the crippling cramps start, and it's more a mood shift than pain killi…

Early part of migraine maybe. Euphoria is a symptom. I used to get that the day before one would hit.

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Post by jadbox »

rosywoozlechan wrote: post #62

I believe it for anecdodal reasons. Since a few years ago I started eating vegetables and whole foods and greek yogurt, cottage cheese, my cravings for what foods I want to eat and what foods I like have changed so much. I can't stand the foods I used to love, and I love always having veggies now in my food. I'm always joking with my partner that my gut bacteria have mindcontrolled me and that I'm a zombie for my gut…

I just want to echo this and also speak from experience. I've learned to know my cravings- for protein, vegis, simple (ideally mono) fats, and so on. Sometimes I just think to myself.. I need an avocado and a little salt to solve this particular inner craving. When we have a healthy balanced diet, I find my cravings more closely align with what our bodies naturally require, no more or less.

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Post by basch »

jassyr wrote: post #41
basch wrote: post #18

I have to wonder what the prevalence of psychedelics and antidepressants has done at a population level to change us. A Multidisciplinary Hypothesis about Serotonergic Psychedelics. Is it Possible that a Portion of Brain Serotonin Comes From the Gut? https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36137971/ Seeking the Psilocybiome: Psychedelics meet the microbiota-gut-brain axis https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S16…

Can't speak at the population level, but on a personal, anecdotal level I very reluctantly started taking an SSRI a few years ago and my life is substantially better. YMMV.

But did they change: How you poop? How well your food is digested? What nutrients you absorb from your food?
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