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How the Xbox 360 knows if your hard drive is genuine

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Re: How the Xbox 360 knows if your hard drive is genuine

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Post by fnimick »

everyone wrote: post #2

I will never understand why people buy that locked down, proprietary, DRM infested shit (gaming consoles, "smart" appliances, smartphones, apple stuff etc.) in the first place. .. I would rather have nothing.

It can be nice. It takes mental effort to manage an open system and make sure you don't run anything malicious - a limited, sandboxed environment you can always rely on to work is much easier by comparison.

I do miss the PS3 linux option though. It would be great to have console hardware that boots in two modes - a console mode for playing games, and an open x86 mode for doing general compute. This is especially relevant now that current console are effectively PCs with custom software rather than having specialty instruction sets. AMD even already sells broken PS5 chips as barebones systems! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h08cMFwqRc

Re: How the Xbox 360 knows if your hard drive is genuine

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Post by Lammy »

haunter wrote: post #7
everyone wrote: post #2

I will never understand why people buy that locked down, proprietary, DRM infested shit (gaming consoles, "smart" appliances, smartphones, apple stuff etc.) in the first place. .. I would rather have nothing.

Life is too short to not enjoy things. Sure I can choose to have nothing either but personally to me that's not fun.

It's possible to enjoy something like a game console while also being aware of their role in the elimination of general-purpose computing. These kind of platforms are where they farm us for technologies like hypervisors, signed-everything, e-fuses, always-online, etc. Consent is easily manufactured when enough people believe that media """needs to be protected""" to exist at all. I still love my 360 though :)

Re: How the Xbox 360 knows if your hard drive is genuine

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Post by NavinF »

everyone wrote: post #2

I will never understand why people buy that locked down, proprietary, DRM infested shit (gaming consoles, "smart" appliances, smartphones, apple stuff etc.) in the first place. .. I would rather have nothing.

> I would rather have nothing.

Then I think you know exactly why others buy consoles lol. Even the most hardcore PC gamers would prefer a console over nothing

Re: How the Xbox 360 knows if your hard drive is genuine

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Post by ascagnel_ »

ct0 wrote: post #5
everyone wrote: post #2

I will never understand why people buy that locked down, proprietary, DRM infested shit (gaming consoles, "smart" appliances, smartphones, apple stuff etc.) in the first place. .. I would rather have nothing.

If only every child would rather have nothing than a "locked down" Xbox. When I was 13 I didn't really care if it was locked down, but as an adult it matters a bit more.

As an adult, I don't want to have to manage a thing that I would normally use for leisure. Thankfully, we're starting to see devices released that point in that direction -- the Steam Deck is an open device (users can install an M2 SSD if they're willing to open the device, or they can use a standard SD card if they're not), has a full desktop environment available, yet can be entirely used in the device's "game mode" that abstracts and hides the bulk of the device's complexity.

Re: How the Xbox 360 knows if your hard drive is genuine

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Post by robotnikman »

LesZedCB wrote: post #10

stuff like this is outrageous. i got a steam deck a few weeks ago and decided to grab the base model and an $80 512GB NVMe drive on newegg. the install was easy and i saved a ton of money. that's how hardware should work, especially stuff as easy as drives/RAM.

I love how hackable they made the Steam Deck, you can easily find replacement parts as well. I even remember someone got an external graphics card working on one by using the NVME slot and an adapter to connect it. Of course, that kinda defeats the whole purpose of the Steam Deck lol

Re: How the Xbox 360 knows if your hard drive is genuine

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Post by jbverschoor »

Of all components, a disk is the only thing that “regularly” fail, that become too small, and have no other security impact, no profit margin (I think)

It’s idiotic MS took this route.

And what’s the downside/risk for MS? Nothing.. if the Xbox doesn’t work anymore, just don’t give any support on that disk

Re: How the Xbox 360 knows if your hard drive is genuine

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Post by everyone »

Lammy wrote: post #13
haunter wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Life is too short to not enjoy things. Sure I can choose to have nothing either but personally to me that's not fun.

It's possible to enjoy something like a game console while also being aware of their role in the elimination of general-purpose computing. These kind of platforms are where they farm us for technologies like hypervisors, signed-everything, e-fuses, always-online, etc. Consent is easily manufactured when enough people believe that media """needs to be protected""" to exist at all. I still love my 360 though :)

Yeah consoles indoctrinated people and opened the way for stuff like the BMW with the DRM heated seats. I think similarly, micro-transactions and DLC in games, digital goods, rare loot in WoW, led the way for stuff like bitcoin and nfts becoming relatively popular, and not just being utterly ridiculed by everyone.
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