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Re: Netflix's New Chapter

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Post by fryz » Tue, Jan 24, 2023, 5:31 PM UTC

hintymad wrote: post #280

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You might not be the right market (or at least, the marketplace might be different for your demographic). I'm a parent, and for me, and all my parent friends, Disney+ is the streaming service that generates the most value in our households. Along with all the old/nostalgic Disney animated films, they generate and acquire a lot of the "in" content for kids (Bluey, Mickey Mouse Kids House, etc.) Before my kids, Disney+…

> Along with all the old/nostalgic Disney animated films, they generate and acquire a lot of the "in" content for kids (Bluey, Mickey Mouse Kids House, etc.) True for my family too! It's just that my kids already cycle through most, if not all, of the content they want to watch.

Maybe we've not gotten there yet (kids are 2 and 1), but they can watch the same thing thousands of times and it will still glue them to the TV.

Re: Netflix's New Chapter

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Post by duderific » Tue, Jan 24, 2023, 6:34 PM UTC

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My gosh, I thought Andor was just a horrific bore. I literally couldn't stay awake for it. It felt like about four episodes worth of story stretched out to 12 episodes. I feel like with all the glowing reviews, people are watching it through the lens of being Star Wars universe fans, and not judging it objectively against other content. I did enjoy the Mandalorian series because at least it had the comic relief of Gr…

That's a surprising take considering how little it intersects with the rest of the SW universe. There's no Jedis, no lightsabers maybe one brief space battle and barely any direct overlap with the films. You could come in cold without having seen anything else and still enjoy it. I thought it was outstanding, especially the pacing and suspense of the early episodes. The second half is a lot more action-packed and squ…

I thought the heist was kind of silly though; the whole strategy was just go in and strong-arm the guards, which is kind of lazy. A more clever "Star Wars-y" approach might have been to create some kind of subterfuge such that they could simply walk in and take the credits without even a challenge.

As far as the jailbreak, I had trouble getting emotionally invested in the outcome, as I found Diego Luna's character to be one-dimensional. Again, the approach was simply shoot your way out.

Re: Netflix's New Chapter

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Post by JakeTheAndroid » Tue, Jan 24, 2023, 8:23 PM UTC

WorldMaker wrote: post #264

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Well this is already sort of the case. But instead of Netflix it's Hulu. Hulu was the sort of agnostic platform that included live TV and needed to be able to VOD all the shows available on live TV networks. Now, you bundle Hulu + ESPN + Disney. Until every company wanted their own streaming service, Hulu was where you could find broad network content. And they even have commercials, so it worked great by classical T…

> And Hulu doesn't aggregate ESPN+ and Disney+ in a single pane. My Hulu shows aggregated ESPN+ in the "Live TV" category (which does show up on the Home Hub as well). It's quite obvious to me because that and HBO (incidentally) are the only "Live TV" I pay for so all I see in the Live TV section at all are ESPN+ and HBO. Disney+ aggregation isn't there in Hulu, but the opposite is definitely already happening: a bun…

Thanks for the update on that. I went back and checked and you're correct ESPN+ is there for Live TV. I just also happen to pay for Hulu Live, so it gets a bit buried. But it is in fact there.

I then went and checked Disney+ and you're also correct. Some of the Hulu content is now on that app. But yeah, its almost like completely random content was moved over, so it seems like its just easier to go to Hulu for now. But it's been clear for a while that Hulu is dying slowly.

For a while it seemed like Hulu was the path to killing Netflix but that floundered out years ago. And now everyone has their own service, so it seems very unlikely its worth trying to rebuild off Hulu at all. We'll see how Disney deals with the more adult/dark content on their platform but that seems like a better problem to solve than having 3 different platforms for streaming stuff. I do wonder if they will care at all about live streaming though; it costs a lot of money and idk how good the margins are.

Re: Netflix's New Chapter

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Post by WorldMaker » Tue, Jan 24, 2023, 8:42 PM UTC

JakeTheAndroid wrote: post #313

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> And Hulu doesn't aggregate ESPN+ and Disney+ in a single pane. My Hulu shows aggregated ESPN+ in the "Live TV" category (which does show up on the Home Hub as well). It's quite obvious to me because that and HBO (incidentally) are the only "Live TV" I pay for so all I see in the Live TV section at all are ESPN+ and HBO. Disney+ aggregation isn't there in Hulu, but the opposite is definitely already happening: a bun…

Thanks for the update on that. I went back and checked and you're correct ESPN+ is there for Live TV. I just also happen to pay for Hulu Live, so it gets a bit buried. But it is in fact there. I then went and checked Disney+ and you're also correct. Some of the Hulu content is now on that app. But yeah, its almost like completely random content was moved over, so it seems like its just easier to go to Hulu for now. B…

Yeah, my Hulu account dates back to an early Beta key from a friend then working at GE Appliances, and I've maintained an active subscription on my Hulu account through more years than my Netflix account, so there's an interesting sense of nostalgia/loss in assuming the Hulu brand will be dead soon and even if it manages to remain a zombie brand for a while (if for no other reason than the "After Dark" problem), the Disney era of Hulu which started just a few months back when Comcast sold their last shares of Hulu to Disney is already a different Hulu from the Hulu that once thought it could be a multi-provider aggregator platform to truly rival the cable companies. (Not that Disney killed that vision, Comcast did their part to kill that vision when they bought majority ownership from GE along with NBC Universal.)