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WTF with high school questions?

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Re: WTF with high school questions?

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Shopify has an initial round with recruiter called "Life Story interview". You basically start from the beginning, talking about your high school experience, what did you like there and what did you study, your childhood hobbies ...

This seems strange for a middle aged candidate, what are they looking for here? Communication skills?

I wanna believe most people would pass unless they said their childhood hobbies are torturing animals and setting fires. But I have no idea.

Re: WTF with high school questions?

#72

Why do recruiters have such trouble with such a simple task like gauging a candidate's real skills? Seriously. Here is how to do it. I'm looking for a React Developer, I ask the following simple questions: 1. Tell my about your contributions to major projects you have been involved in. (if they share their work ask more in-depth questions about it) 2. With $givenTechnologyStack, how do you usually solve state managem…

There are people who are good at tech, but not good at casual conversation about tech. They may not know your terminology even though they are familiar with the concepts, and they may be afraid to ask for clarification on your terminology. And rightly so, as I've heard people act like I am a moron for asking "What exactly do you mean by TECH_BUZZWORD?"

Also when people research interviewing styles, the "conversational" approach apparently ranks pretty badly. People can be good at BSing, reading the bold print etc.

Re: WTF with high school questions?

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While I agree that questions about High School are dumb, if a candidate answered the question with "this question is irrelevant" in a free-form text field (as they did in the screenshot), I would probably thing twice about hiring the person.

"I got kicked out of English for insubordination" oh, and the blogger gave a smarta* answer to a free-form text question? Yep, insubordination is still there. I'd pass on this candidate too.

Considering he also wrote a blog post criticizing this question, I feel comfortable saying that he already passed on this job. So saying you'd pass on him has "you can't quit, you're fired!" energy to it. Also, I don't agree that this demonstrates insubordination. There can't be insubordination without a subordinate-supervisor relationship.

I also don't think this is a "smartass" answer:

> This is an irrelevant question unless you're focusing on recent grads with no job history.

That is a straightforward statement of his opinion. He's perfectly within his rights not to answer any question, and explaining why he chooses not to is hardly an unreasonable thing to do.

Re: WTF with high school questions?

#74

Why do recruiters have such trouble with such a simple task like gauging a candidate's real skills? Seriously. Here is how to do it. I'm looking for a React Developer, I ask the following simple questions: 1. Tell my about your contributions to major projects you have been involved in. (if they share their work ask more in-depth questions about it) 2. With $givenTechnologyStack, how do you usually solve state managem…

The notion of looking for a "React" developer is rather silly to begin with so any employer doing that can expect poor results. Competent hiring managers like look for more general skills plus the ability to quickly learn new technologies as needed. Tomorrow the industry will move on to something else and React will become obsolete.

If you need specific technical skills in React for an urgent project then retain a contractor or consultant, don't hire an employee.

Re: WTF with high school questions?

#75

Why do recruiters have such trouble with such a simple task like gauging a candidate's real skills? Seriously. Here is how to do it. I'm looking for a React Developer, I ask the following simple questions: 1. Tell my about your contributions to major projects you have been involved in. (if they share their work ask more in-depth questions about it) 2. With $givenTechnologyStack, how do you usually solve state managem…

Recruiters are not technical interviewers. They're testing your communication skills, if anything at all.

And grades or university name makes it easy to rank candidates to present a short list to the actual recruiter.

Re: WTF with high school questions?

#76

Why do recruiters have such trouble with such a simple task like gauging a candidate's real skills? Seriously. Here is how to do it. I'm looking for a React Developer, I ask the following simple questions: 1. Tell my about your contributions to major projects you have been involved in. (if they share their work ask more in-depth questions about it) 2. With $givenTechnologyStack, how do you usually solve state managem…

> Why do recruiters have such trouble with such a simple task like gauging a candidate's real skills?

The real question is: Why don't the courts? Everything else is just to cover asses when the discrimination lawsuits appear.

Re: WTF with high school questions?

#77
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They use the same format for Accounts Payable Clerk as they do for Director of Devops. Slightly lazy, sure, but not really blog post worthy. If you're an experienced hire just put do not recall and move on with your life.

Also, it seems like these discussions assume everyone went to college. If they haven’t, asking about high school is relevant.

Re: WTF with high school questions?

#78
At $job-4 I had the following exchange with HR.

HR: Our records are incomplete, please provide a copy of your degree and transcript. Me: I don't have a degree. HR: We only hire people with degrees! Me: Well I have a contract and get paid so... HR: What is the highest education level you've achieved? Me: I finished high school 20 years ago. HR: Great, please provide a copy of your certificate and transcript.

I ignored them, six months later practically word for word we had the same conversation again.

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